1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:02,270 hello and welcome to the show this is 2 00:00:06,889 --> 00:00:04,410 Martin Willis your host actually I might 3 00:00:07,909 --> 00:00:06,899 not be the host we really don't know 4 00:00:10,370 --> 00:00:07,919 what kind of show we're running tonight 5 00:00:12,379 --> 00:00:10,380 I will tell you it's entertaining and 6 00:00:14,060 --> 00:00:12,389 for those watching on youtube we're at a 7 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:14,070 radio station in Exeter New Hampshire 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:17,070 and we have all kinds of gadgets and 9 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:20,490 they should be working and thanks for 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:23,910 your help Matt and here we have it's 11 00:00:28,339 --> 00:00:26,010 gonna be a different show so we are 12 00:00:31,429 --> 00:00:28,349 gonna I think we'll broach the topic of 13 00:00:34,940 --> 00:00:31,439 UFOs eventually but we have Mack Maloney 14 00:00:38,810 --> 00:00:34,950 and we have 1 1 and we have commander 15 00:00:40,250 --> 00:00:38,820 Cobra in the corner and myself and Matt 16 00:00:42,410 --> 00:00:40,260 is just hanging out helping us when 17 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:42,420 things start to smoke and burn and 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:44,760 things like that so welcome to show 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:47,850 everyone hello man how's it going this 20 00:00:54,350 --> 00:00:50,930 is going to be fun it is so this is also 21 00:00:57,439 --> 00:00:54,360 it's gonna air as military x-files as 22 00:00:59,450 --> 00:00:57,449 well mm-hmm Mack Melones military house 23 00:01:01,990 --> 00:00:59,460 which is on about seven or eight 24 00:01:05,179 --> 00:01:02,000 networks across the country 25 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:05,189 Casey yo I and Las Vegas is really the 26 00:01:10,250 --> 00:01:07,860 best place I think the girl and doc 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:10,260 matter radio what's wrong huh I think 28 00:01:13,399 --> 00:01:11,610 we're some of the best place but you 29 00:01:14,090 --> 00:01:13,409 know the place that it's so dear most 30 00:01:15,649 --> 00:01:14,100 excitable 31 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:15,659 well let's promote everybody here yeah 32 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:19,350 well this is on kgr a radio right now 33 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:22,350 and simulcast on YouTube and it's also 34 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:23,729 played on the Dark Matter digital 35 00:01:28,190 --> 00:01:26,640 network and that's on Thursdays at 5:00 36 00:01:33,469 --> 00:01:28,200 to 8:00 37 00:01:35,450 --> 00:01:33,479 that's Pacific time and so we are we're 38 00:01:37,999 --> 00:01:35,460 gonna broach the topic a UFO so we're 39 00:01:39,499 --> 00:01:38,009 kind of like cross pollinating shows 40 00:01:44,389 --> 00:01:39,509 here and I just buy the port that was a 41 00:01:45,859 --> 00:01:44,399 nice way to put it yeah good yeah yes so 42 00:01:50,530 --> 00:01:45,869 I'm looking at three drones there's no 43 00:01:54,289 --> 00:01:52,910 all right I said it's gonna be 44 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:54,299 entertaining I want to tell everyone I 45 00:02:00,050 --> 00:01:57,090 went to the MUFON symposium down in New 46 00:02:01,190 --> 00:02:00,060 Jersey cherry hill this weekend had a 47 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:01,200 really good time I got stuck in traffic 48 00:02:07,119 --> 00:02:03,810 however for over ten hours going from 49 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:07,129 Boston to New Jersey and I missed up 50 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:09,599 Lois Elizondo 51 00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:11,610 but anyone can watch that on YouTube the 52 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:13,380 symposium is on YouTube and you can 53 00:02:17,210 --> 00:02:15,450 Jim speak it starts at about an hour and 54 00:02:20,030 --> 00:02:17,220 eight minutes you can check that out 55 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:20,040 very interesting I actually had a 56 00:02:24,290 --> 00:02:21,810 conversation with him for about a half 57 00:02:25,580 --> 00:02:24,300 an hour and the hallways a real nice guy 58 00:02:26,810 --> 00:02:25,590 we ended up having a lot of things in 59 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:26,820 common as far as the antiques and 60 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:29,430 collecting and all that so I might help 61 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:31,140 him out with a little bit of appraisals 62 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:32,160 but you know the whole time I talked to 63 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:34,170 him the word UFO never came up 64 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:37,110 interesting point that is interesting so 65 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:41,250 I was all excited though I paid extra 66 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:44,610 ticket to do a one-on-one dinner with 67 00:02:48,110 --> 00:02:47,130 with him oh well and it was like a seven 68 00:02:49,940 --> 00:02:48,120 o'clock at night or something like that 69 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:49,950 well I saw him on the phone during the 70 00:02:53,180 --> 00:02:51,450 day and he kept going back on the phone 71 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:53,190 and walking out walking around in 72 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:55,530 circles and talking seemed like 73 00:02:59,300 --> 00:02:56,640 something was wrong next thing you know 74 00:03:01,880 --> 00:02:59,310 he was gone so he left for an emergency 75 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:01,890 okay so it didn't happen how long but 76 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:05,130 still it was a great conference I got to 77 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:07,590 speak interview a few people and 78 00:03:14,270 --> 00:03:09,810 supporters of the show the the members 79 00:03:18,860 --> 00:03:14,280 broadcast podcast has that podcast up 80 00:03:19,930 --> 00:03:18,870 and I did get a great interview with the 81 00:03:22,490 --> 00:03:19,940 Ariel schools 82 00:03:24,260 --> 00:03:22,500 Selma siddik I had her once on the show 83 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:24,270 and when I have a great show by the way 84 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:26,130 thank you when I had the heard the first 85 00:03:29,570 --> 00:03:28,260 time she got contacted from all over the 86 00:03:33,260 --> 00:03:29,580 world media companies and everything 87 00:03:34,490 --> 00:03:33,270 else so this time I think was the best 88 00:03:36,230 --> 00:03:34,500 interview did you have another look 89 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:36,240 overdue to listen to the latest one not 90 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:37,290 the latest one but the one you have 91 00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:39,060 originally had her on the latest ones 92 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:40,560 unbelievable because she actually talks 93 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:42,090 about and thank you for sending me the 94 00:03:45,380 --> 00:03:43,860 link that you did because I listened to 95 00:03:48,740 --> 00:03:45,390 it when I was supposed to be you know 96 00:03:51,199 --> 00:03:48,750 doing work but that's okay relax a 97 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:51,209 little bit so anyway it was great 98 00:03:54,500 --> 00:03:52,890 because she actually talked about one of 99 00:03:56,660 --> 00:03:54,510 the questions I think and for the 100 00:04:00,530 --> 00:03:56,670 supporters that listen to this she 101 00:04:03,050 --> 00:04:00,540 answers that that I asked her a question 102 00:04:05,449 --> 00:04:03,060 that someone posed to me she did not get 103 00:04:07,070 --> 00:04:05,459 any type of telepathic message or 104 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:07,080 anything like the other kids did uh-huh 105 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:09,120 and which were interesting messages like 106 00:04:11,180 --> 00:04:10,530 take care of the earth and stuff like 107 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:11,190 that okay 108 00:04:15,860 --> 00:04:13,890 she had no message and someone I don't 109 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:15,870 know nothing at all and someone said to 110 00:04:19,699 --> 00:04:18,000 me well why don't you ask her why she 111 00:04:21,530 --> 00:04:19,709 thinks she didn't get one okay 112 00:04:23,690 --> 00:04:21,540 I was great question she said well I'm 113 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:23,700 not a hundred percent sure she said I 114 00:04:27,260 --> 00:04:26,250 had to break my I lock with this 115 00:04:28,730 --> 00:04:27,270 creature 116 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:28,740 and she said it was one of the hardest 117 00:04:32,059 --> 00:04:30,690 thing she's ever done because she was 118 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:32,069 worried about her sister and brother so 119 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:34,289 she broke her eye lock and she said I 120 00:04:37,879 --> 00:04:36,270 don't know you know she was exhausted 121 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:37,889 afterwards - which i think is all 122 00:04:41,809 --> 00:04:39,690 fascinating do you know anything about 123 00:04:44,540 --> 00:04:41,819 that case any you don't love it that 124 00:04:46,969 --> 00:04:44,550 much the mostly what was kind of put out 125 00:04:50,210 --> 00:04:46,979 as the sensational news where you know 126 00:04:51,559 --> 00:04:50,220 that the and very outlandish claims that 127 00:04:54,379 --> 00:04:51,569 were added to it because when you do 128 00:04:55,900 --> 00:04:54,389 listen to their description they're kind 129 00:05:00,320 --> 00:04:55,910 of their debrief of what they put out 130 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:00,330 it's much more tangible it's much more 131 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:02,250 understandable what's going on but I 132 00:05:05,809 --> 00:05:03,840 think that happens with almost every UFO 133 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:05,819 case that comes on there's a sensational 134 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:08,490 side to it that everyone you know wants 135 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:11,490 to talk about what did she I have never 136 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:13,889 heard of her I have - okay she was one 137 00:05:20,779 --> 00:05:16,500 of the 62 schoolchildren at the area of 138 00:05:23,149 --> 00:05:20,789 school in Rua South Africa mm-hmm 139 00:05:25,790 --> 00:05:23,159 Zimbabwe there was an encounter there 140 00:05:27,770 --> 00:05:25,800 where they saw like flashing lights and 141 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:27,780 they went out on their playground and it 142 00:05:30,589 --> 00:05:29,130 was the only time there was no teachers 143 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:30,599 out on the playground it just happened 144 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:32,969 to be that way they were having a 145 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:36,210 teachers meeting so either one being or 146 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:37,530 multiple beings got out if there were 147 00:05:41,870 --> 00:05:39,810 multiple they looked exactly like and 148 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:41,880 her description is fantastic really I 149 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:43,919 mean they had a pigment of skin that 150 00:05:48,580 --> 00:05:45,960 she's never could explain or seen before 151 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:48,590 mm-hmm very large head small in stature 152 00:05:55,820 --> 00:05:52,440 large very large black eyes hmm no 153 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:55,830 noticeable nose and a mouth and so this 154 00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:57,810 thing was like she was four feet away 155 00:06:03,499 --> 00:06:00,479 from it four feet well and she was like 156 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:03,509 I locked with it which is to me it gives 157 00:06:06,860 --> 00:06:04,800 it gave me the goosebumps 158 00:06:11,180 --> 00:06:06,870 mm-hmm so yeah it's it's quite the 159 00:06:12,559 --> 00:06:11,190 encounter and I think it's you know John 160 00:06:15,260 --> 00:06:12,569 Mac went in there right away and you 161 00:06:17,719 --> 00:06:15,270 know the kids and yep from javed yeah it 162 00:06:20,149 --> 00:06:17,729 was the guy who did a lot of that you 163 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:20,159 know hypnosis on you know people who 164 00:06:24,890 --> 00:06:22,080 thought that they were abducted right 165 00:06:26,059 --> 00:06:24,900 lost-time cases missing missing time 166 00:06:27,890 --> 00:06:26,069 then he got killed in a car accident 167 00:06:31,580 --> 00:06:27,900 right that's right he was in London and 168 00:06:33,469 --> 00:06:31,590 he was was not used to left drivers yep 169 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:33,479 and so he looked the other way when he 170 00:06:37,810 --> 00:06:34,860 was crossing that part of the street oh 171 00:06:40,090 --> 00:06:37,820 wow truck a truck ran hit him huh 172 00:06:41,410 --> 00:06:40,100 that's why I was intoxicated but why 173 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:41,420 this matters spray-painted on the 174 00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:45,170 sidewalk froze all non folks looked the 175 00:06:47,830 --> 00:06:46,400 other direction when you're right what's 176 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:47,840 that register Wow 177 00:06:53,410 --> 00:06:50,270 yeah didn't work that time he didn't see 178 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:53,420 it obviously that's too bad so uh for my 179 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:55,370 show I know this is gonna be your show 180 00:06:58,660 --> 00:06:57,770 too but can we give a little background 181 00:07:00,370 --> 00:06:58,670 one-one 182 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:00,380 and by the way for YouTube you can see 183 00:07:04,510 --> 00:07:02,330 we're all wearing sunglasses right and 184 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:04,520 the only reason I am is because I felt 185 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:05,210 left out 186 00:07:09,730 --> 00:07:07,490 so I went to the car got myself my 187 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:09,740 contract contractually obligated to 188 00:07:15,730 --> 00:07:13,130 introduce one okay absolutely 189 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:15,740 yeah okay if not you know yes people you 190 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:20,170 guys talk though right yes I do mostly 191 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,970 so especially when provoked yeah all 192 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:24,560 right I should say hey we're gonna have 193 00:07:28,630 --> 00:07:26,450 quite a show for you tonight but first I 194 00:07:30,970 --> 00:07:28,640 have to introduce the members of the 195 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:30,980 posse of the poussey as they say in 196 00:07:35,260 --> 00:07:33,770 Paris right that's right okay girls get 197 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:35,270 ready it's not Fanning yourself the very 198 00:07:40,690 --> 00:07:38,450 famous one is here what a special track 199 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:40,700 that they get to see one one tonight you 200 00:07:43,450 --> 00:07:42,410 don't now you're stepping on his well 201 00:07:46,420 --> 00:07:43,460 I'm stepping on it tonight 202 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:46,430 Wow he's always stepping on it or in it 203 00:07:51,130 --> 00:07:49,280 okay so one one you rail or everybody 204 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:51,140 I'm one one you got all dressed up 205 00:07:55,090 --> 00:07:53,450 tonight familiar Maloney he's wearing 206 00:07:56,470 --> 00:07:55,100 pants and everything yeah right that's 207 00:07:58,530 --> 00:07:56,480 right it's a nice change 208 00:08:00,610 --> 00:07:58,540 yeah that's the beauty of an audio show 209 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:00,620 yeah that's right 210 00:08:05,410 --> 00:08:02,960 okay oh she naked an audio but we're on 211 00:08:07,450 --> 00:08:05,420 YouTube live saying y'all wow this is a 212 00:08:07,750 --> 00:08:07,460 big treat for us yeah what a special 213 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:07,760 night 214 00:08:10,870 --> 00:08:09,710 I got a haircut and everything did you 215 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:10,880 really mean you're covering with your 216 00:08:15,490 --> 00:08:13,850 hat Hey yes that's because I did 217 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:15,500 eyeshadow and it came out kind of blurry 218 00:08:19,530 --> 00:08:18,110 so I know that's just in my head you 219 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:19,540 would wear a hat for eyeshadow but 220 00:08:24,340 --> 00:08:21,680 obviously a psychologist been answered 221 00:08:26,050 --> 00:08:24,350 also hey listen we have to make a big 222 00:08:27,610 --> 00:08:26,060 point of this that Koko is actually in 223 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:27,620 the studio with us this is the first 224 00:08:30,940 --> 00:08:29,690 time I since before Christmas because I 225 00:08:32,620 --> 00:08:30,950 still have your Christmas present yeah 226 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:32,630 see see but anyway the very famous 227 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:34,640 command a quorum or one of us could even 228 00:08:37,209 --> 00:08:35,810 about that one at all 229 00:08:38,950 --> 00:08:37,219 and Martin thank you very much and he's 230 00:08:41,140 --> 00:08:38,960 wearing his uniform an owner and his 231 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:41,150 pilot's yes but I would like to note 232 00:08:44,860 --> 00:08:43,010 that I am not wearing the intimidating 233 00:08:47,890 --> 00:08:44,870 helmet which upset some of Martin's 234 00:08:49,420 --> 00:08:47,900 viewers on YouTube so I will be taking 235 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:49,430 plenty of email on the fact that I'm 236 00:08:53,860 --> 00:08:51,110 wearing the Ghost Rider 237 00:08:56,019 --> 00:08:53,870 have mall cap tonight which has a scary 238 00:08:57,970 --> 00:08:56,029 skeleton with cross swords behind it but 239 00:08:59,680 --> 00:08:57,980 it's not the scary helmet what you love 240 00:09:01,509 --> 00:08:59,690 the helmet when you were on his snow no 241 00:09:02,980 --> 00:09:01,519 way yes I was on his show why would you 242 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:02,990 wear a helmet because it was the easier 243 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:04,610 way to go with commander Cobra because 244 00:09:07,780 --> 00:09:06,050 he had me on the guest as commander 245 00:09:09,009 --> 00:09:07,790 Cobra and introduce my flying career I 246 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:09,019 thought it was kind of fun so you want 247 00:09:13,810 --> 00:09:12,320 the helmet okay and you have the helmet 248 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:13,820 out in the Cessna outside right that is 249 00:09:16,900 --> 00:09:15,260 correct yeah we don't want to talk about 250 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:16,910 what the aircraft is outside oh I'm 251 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:20,959 sorry yes kind of kind of yeah yeah all 252 00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:21,290 right 253 00:09:26,019 --> 00:09:23,990 so are you done introducing everybody 254 00:09:28,199 --> 00:09:26,029 yeah I think so yep so let everyone know 255 00:09:30,190 --> 00:09:28,209 that unfortunately I can't take calls 256 00:09:31,810 --> 00:09:30,200 just because of the way we had to run 257 00:09:36,449 --> 00:09:31,820 the Skype today we're having the usual 258 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:36,459 breaks we do and that will be right at 259 00:09:40,030 --> 00:09:37,760 6:25 260 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:40,040 Eastern Standard Time and at 6:55 uses 261 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:41,360 Eastern Standard Time we're gonna 262 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:43,519 continue talking and then later on can 263 00:09:48,130 --> 00:09:44,720 you describe what's gonna happen later 264 00:09:48,910 --> 00:09:48,140 on Mac no not really what I mean we make 265 00:09:50,910 --> 00:09:48,920 it up as we go along 266 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:50,920 yes we're gonna have our improvised 267 00:09:55,060 --> 00:09:52,760 we're going to have our buddy out in 268 00:09:57,340 --> 00:09:55,070 Battle Creek Michigan switchblade Steve 269 00:09:59,860 --> 00:09:57,350 they always bring he always brings a 270 00:10:02,230 --> 00:09:59,870 some good content to the show something 271 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:02,240 we're late Steve he is our Mothman 272 00:10:07,180 --> 00:10:04,310 expert but yes he's a muffin expert you 273 00:10:10,030 --> 00:10:07,190 know we first dubbed him mas which was 274 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:10,040 stilettos stiletto see in Steny and he 275 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:12,560 put a bit of a stink up he didn't see it 276 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:14,240 as the knife he saw it as the high heel 277 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:16,850 shoe Michigan is right that was at least 278 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:18,680 what two psychologists and one 279 00:10:23,860 --> 00:10:21,250 psychiatrist to get us all through that 280 00:10:26,019 --> 00:10:23,870 isis-linked sling blades no sling blade 281 00:10:27,610 --> 00:10:26,029 yeah now dude have to have some type of 282 00:10:29,259 --> 00:10:27,620 blade with you when you're Mothman 283 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:29,269 hunting or something or and I know we 284 00:10:33,939 --> 00:10:31,610 just he just needed a yeah a nickname 285 00:10:35,259 --> 00:10:33,949 and when he said stiletto he didn't it 286 00:10:37,060 --> 00:10:35,269 for about three or four weeks he was 287 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:37,070 kind of quiet on and then finally again 288 00:10:41,410 --> 00:10:38,810 approached his subjects he said and I 289 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:41,420 know I am you know being labeled with a 290 00:10:45,670 --> 00:10:43,130 high-heeled shoe you know we said well 291 00:10:49,660 --> 00:10:45,680 I'm Boston that means a switch switch 292 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:49,670 blade you know a weapon sanaka you don't 293 00:10:53,710 --> 00:10:51,890 have a stage name nickname are you that 294 00:10:57,189 --> 00:10:53,720 he's the Mac are you the one that is the 295 00:11:00,130 --> 00:10:57,199 giver of all nicknames we're just kind 296 00:11:02,110 --> 00:11:00,140 of inherited well in my case I was 297 00:11:04,060 --> 00:11:02,120 commander X back in the day when we 298 00:11:06,939 --> 00:11:04,070 stood when Mac was doing some shows 299 00:11:08,290 --> 00:11:06,949 the circadian trade arrows trademark 300 00:11:10,540 --> 00:11:08,300 infringement when we went to the other 301 00:11:13,930 --> 00:11:10,550 part of it so Mac had to very quickly 302 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:13,940 come up with a name and that's where a 303 00:11:17,139 --> 00:11:15,290 commander cobra comes from which is a 304 00:11:19,749 --> 00:11:17,149 play on my callsign which we won't use 305 00:11:21,220 --> 00:11:19,759 on air but as you know what we've spoken 306 00:11:23,439 --> 00:11:21,230 about it's on the side of the assessment 307 00:11:28,809 --> 00:11:23,449 isn't it that's good okay again don't 308 00:11:31,540 --> 00:11:28,819 mention that we are contractually 309 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:31,550 obligated to salute commander quorum at 310 00:11:35,170 --> 00:11:33,440 some point during the show another way 311 00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:35,180 is it usually a like two or three beers 312 00:11:38,860 --> 00:11:36,769 into the show that's when they like to 313 00:11:40,689 --> 00:11:38,870 stand straight before the man and 314 00:11:42,999 --> 00:11:40,699 chuckling those not be sure we do it now 315 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:43,009 get it oh that's good okay ready ready 316 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:44,690 all I really have to do everyone in the 317 00:11:58,660 --> 00:11:47,750 room is to do it get ready coughing okay 318 00:12:00,370 --> 00:11:58,670 wow wow wow the first time I've ever 319 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:00,380 done yeah and well not the first time 320 00:12:03,939 --> 00:12:01,610 I've done it but the first time I've 321 00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:03,949 seen him return the salute you in 322 00:12:09,660 --> 00:12:06,470 another room cocoa usually right oh man 323 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:09,670 I'm in another dimension usually yeah 324 00:12:14,259 --> 00:12:12,050 well you have to maintain the salute or 325 00:12:18,250 --> 00:12:14,269 so let's return a madam you wanted to 326 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:18,260 come here don't feed the animals too far 327 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:19,850 behind the bars that's the only really 328 00:12:25,090 --> 00:12:22,610 rules you need to know so so we are in 329 00:12:26,439 --> 00:12:25,100 let's let's bring this up since it's a 330 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:26,449 treat for me to be here in the town of 331 00:12:31,449 --> 00:12:28,610 Exeter I don't even notice it gonna be 332 00:12:33,819 --> 00:12:31,459 shirt see got the t-shirts special for 333 00:12:35,470 --> 00:12:33,829 this I know it's no there's no UFO on it 334 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:35,480 or anything let's talk a little bit 335 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:37,490 about incident Exeter of any of you like 336 00:12:41,710 --> 00:12:39,529 had a show on that since you right here 337 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:41,720 yeah we've had two or three shows we've 338 00:12:47,829 --> 00:12:45,110 had Kathy mazdan on Martin Martin Martin 339 00:12:50,139 --> 00:12:47,839 Madden okay very nice woman she is nice 340 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:50,149 yeah we've talked to a guy who is the 341 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:52,610 head of the New Hampshire UFO society 342 00:12:56,290 --> 00:12:55,010 that musician there who last time you 343 00:13:00,939 --> 00:12:56,300 know anyone that's not to run the 344 00:13:02,829 --> 00:13:00,949 segment was that yeah it was good time 345 00:13:06,939 --> 00:13:02,839 he said it's priceless don't let anyone 346 00:13:08,350 --> 00:13:06,949 else hear it musician and he was just 347 00:13:09,970 --> 00:13:08,360 taking offense at some of the things we 348 00:13:12,309 --> 00:13:09,980 were saying to him like we are tonight 349 00:13:15,009 --> 00:13:12,319 yeah we messed up his name a couple of 350 00:13:16,690 --> 00:13:15,019 tests of his name I'd like the record to 351 00:13:19,930 --> 00:13:16,700 show that I was not on the show 352 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:19,940 I just dropped your credits removed no I 353 00:13:27,460 --> 00:13:25,760 there's no oh we're talking masks let's 354 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:27,470 see I by accident I thought you said 355 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:29,120 back we talked about this a by accident 356 00:13:33,820 --> 00:13:32,000 I call one one by his full name and I 357 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:33,830 solely apologized that's all right I 358 00:13:37,690 --> 00:13:35,450 don't either kind of all kinds of emails 359 00:13:39,370 --> 00:13:37,700 from people I know sir actually my name 360 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:39,380 is what do you do Ottomans yeah yeah the 361 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:41,330 name is pretty common out there so yeah 362 00:13:44,710 --> 00:13:43,100 but many people did this this really 363 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:44,720 bugs him I know because he's tell me the 364 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:47,920 Sophia someone says we have double audio 365 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:53,690 can someone in can someone in in chat 366 00:14:00,610 --> 00:13:55,730 right now tell me are you hearing the 367 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:00,620 audio twice like an echo hmm 368 00:14:04,270 --> 00:14:03,050 it takes 30 seconds for this to go 369 00:14:07,570 --> 00:14:04,280 through how about race 370 00:14:11,380 --> 00:14:07,580 maybe race condolence race are you there 371 00:14:15,970 --> 00:14:11,390 right now he's stepped away from Abba 372 00:14:17,290 --> 00:14:15,980 chance right okay all right no we're all 373 00:14:20,170 --> 00:14:17,300 good to go I don't know someone up there 374 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:20,180 said they heard double audio okay it 375 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:21,650 could s just be talking over each other 376 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:23,240 that's true we're not very well behaved 377 00:14:26,650 --> 00:14:25,250 yeah that's what it is talking over each 378 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:26,660 other and as earlier I'm gonna have to 379 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:28,880 get used to it just used to it used to 380 00:14:33,610 --> 00:14:31,970 it so yeah we've had we've had a couple 381 00:14:35,290 --> 00:14:33,620 shows on the Exeter incident you know 382 00:14:38,590 --> 00:14:35,300 cuz it happened I don't know maybe 10 383 00:14:41,140 --> 00:14:38,600 miles from here Coco yeah 10 miles and I 384 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:41,150 remembering ten actually my dad was a my 385 00:14:46,150 --> 00:14:43,250 folks live in Massachusetts and my dad 386 00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:46,160 was a huge interest in UFOs I think 387 00:14:49,630 --> 00:14:47,960 that's what kind of led me to some of 388 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:49,640 the interests that I've always had and 389 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:51,890 we were up here I'd not too long ago I 390 00:14:57,130 --> 00:14:54,650 was looking at 35 mil of Kodak slides 391 00:14:59,560 --> 00:14:57,140 that my dad has of me walking around the 392 00:15:00,370 --> 00:14:59,570 park there where some of the Ground Zero 393 00:15:02,650 --> 00:15:00,380 was hmm 394 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:02,660 okay in the short pants oh really yeah 395 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:06,470 oh wow so there you go did we ever did 396 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:08,450 we are we doing a little a dding here 397 00:15:14,130 --> 00:15:10,970 did we talk about who everyone is really 398 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:14,140 yet I don't think well yeah we 399 00:15:20,110 --> 00:15:16,850 introduced him but you know he's he's 400 00:15:22,990 --> 00:15:20,120 the IT guy and he's the kind of inside 401 00:15:24,940 --> 00:15:23,000 guy you're the inside yeah so what was 402 00:15:28,910 --> 00:15:24,950 we should do Martin to help keep this on 403 00:15:30,590 --> 00:15:28,920 some kind of a schedule why okay 404 00:15:34,460 --> 00:15:30,600 well with that attitude I can correct 405 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:34,470 that pretty quick but Mac is the genius 406 00:15:38,930 --> 00:15:36,450 behind this the writer of numerous books 407 00:15:41,450 --> 00:15:38,940 fiction and nonfiction these cloud these 408 00:15:44,780 --> 00:15:41,460 days one one will read one from cover to 409 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:44,790 cover we're all hopeful for that review 410 00:15:49,340 --> 00:15:46,550 copy of this new book there is a new 411 00:15:51,890 --> 00:15:49,350 book that's been rated at the street one 412 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:51,900 is is doing did the forward to it I 413 00:15:55,970 --> 00:15:54,090 think it's a tremendous effort and it's 414 00:15:57,980 --> 00:15:55,980 it kind of reflects this radio show if I 415 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:57,990 if I could be so bold as these go on to 416 00:16:01,550 --> 00:16:00,240 that yeah is that Mac has done a lot of 417 00:16:05,540 --> 00:16:01,560 work that people have seen that they 418 00:16:07,250 --> 00:16:05,550 don't realize travel channel of lots of 419 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:07,260 little bin yets that you would have and 420 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:08,610 though it that aren't commercials that 421 00:16:12,370 --> 00:16:10,050 would set up for another program or 422 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:12,380 unique things he took all that research 423 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:15,450 and combined that in and made a program 424 00:16:19,490 --> 00:16:17,520 out of it excuse me a book out of it 425 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:19,500 based on all these parts and pieces and 426 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:20,730 it I think it's going to be an actually 427 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:23,340 kind of a better-than-average kind of 428 00:16:27,380 --> 00:16:25,410 cool reader because I've always enjoyed 429 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:27,390 what he writes that's how we got to 430 00:16:33,550 --> 00:16:29,490 become friends c11 see that's how you 431 00:16:36,890 --> 00:16:33,560 kiss someone's ass I know I wrote to him 432 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:36,900 23 years ago saying I if you're a pilot 433 00:16:40,130 --> 00:16:38,370 I don't think you're a military pilot 434 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:40,140 you do some you do some absolutely 435 00:16:43,940 --> 00:16:41,730 fantastic reading but stuff that you do 436 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:43,950 rise correctly crazy just try to be 437 00:16:47,930 --> 00:16:45,930 crazy I mean I got you a book to like 438 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:47,940 the lost Lenin tracks and stuff like 439 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:50,310 that did I know no one can find it yes 440 00:16:56,510 --> 00:16:52,170 hey Mac please don't say ass on my show 441 00:16:59,420 --> 00:16:56,520 actually yes I think you did okay no I'm 442 00:17:01,490 --> 00:16:59,430 excited about that book you are you do a 443 00:17:04,340 --> 00:17:01,500 great job your books are really really 444 00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:04,350 good is very excellent I mean that the 445 00:17:07,790 --> 00:17:06,120 first book you did on UFOs your frozen 446 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:07,800 want I know you said you'd never ever do 447 00:17:12,530 --> 00:17:09,450 again right correct on sale everywhere 448 00:17:14,060 --> 00:17:12,540 yep yeah yeah yeah they're kind of tough 449 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:14,070 to do usually I write novels you know 450 00:17:17,329 --> 00:17:15,690 where you can just make it all up yeah 451 00:17:19,220 --> 00:17:17,339 but you know what a nonfiction book man 452 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:19,230 you have to get tons of research and all 453 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:24,000 that jazz and yeah but this is just a 454 00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:25,410 collection of all the stuff that you 455 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:26,790 don't let gathered over the years all 456 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:28,890 like little weird stories ghost stories 457 00:17:33,770 --> 00:17:31,170 haunted airplanes hunted ship there's a 458 00:17:35,540 --> 00:17:33,780 kind of an angle to the military kind of 459 00:17:37,010 --> 00:17:35,550 strange things we had battlefields and 460 00:17:39,470 --> 00:17:37,020 that kind of stuff you know now who's 461 00:17:41,010 --> 00:17:39,480 gonna haunt an airplane there's a lot of 462 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:41,020 heart that it meant in England 463 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:44,170 especially in England it's amazing the 464 00:17:49,740 --> 00:17:46,510 crew members that have died on the 465 00:17:52,350 --> 00:17:49,750 aircraft seems to have a spirit kind of 466 00:17:54,419 --> 00:17:52,360 presence our friend Ross Sharpe of the 467 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:54,429 sharper edge or the the cutting edge 468 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:56,650 with Ross sharp it's he's had some 469 00:18:00,600 --> 00:17:59,530 experiences and it's the funny part 470 00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:00,610 about when you talk with beau we've 471 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:02,260 talked about the Bret's who we'd like to 472 00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:04,090 salute the Royal Air Force celebrating 473 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:05,830 their 100th anniversary this year and 474 00:18:12,660 --> 00:18:09,250 they had a huge royal tattoo this year 475 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:12,670 for the air event they don't have any 476 00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:14,770 problem just accommodating and talking 477 00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:16,540 about them oh yeah yeah this is a 478 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:18,880 haunted airfield there's another one you 479 00:18:22,740 --> 00:18:20,410 ask who would hunt an airplane there was 480 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:22,750 a well of course the famous when the 481 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:24,490 states has to be the flood has already 482 00:18:29,340 --> 00:18:26,710 crashed into Florida and then parts of 483 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:29,350 that airplane was redistributed out to 484 00:18:34,430 --> 00:18:31,420 the fleet if you can buy of Elton 485 00:18:37,230 --> 00:18:34,440 Elevens that probably took parts yeah 486 00:18:39,540 --> 00:18:37,240 yeah people started seeing the crew on 487 00:18:43,230 --> 00:18:39,550 those and the flight engineer they 488 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:43,240 believe he was so duty-bound in fact 489 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:45,010 it's a pretty famous movie Ernest 490 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:46,690 Borgnine played the part of the flight 491 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:48,850 engineers actually it was act and he did 492 00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:50,650 a great job with that particular role as 493 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:54,040 he did most of them first guest to fly 494 00:19:02,600 --> 00:18:57,010 with the Blue Angels was really a mall 495 00:19:06,450 --> 00:19:02,610 footnote they think that because his his 496 00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:06,460 imprint every every airplane that had a 497 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:09,160 part of that came from that crash he was 498 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:10,960 seen on that and then they've removed 499 00:19:16,410 --> 00:19:12,730 all those parts mostly and it stops 500 00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:16,420 actually two pilots in Boston went to 501 00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:19,360 basically a seance to help him go to the 502 00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:21,460 light that's all that story's a very 503 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:22,720 creepy stirring there's a lot of 504 00:19:26,820 --> 00:19:24,160 evidence like people who were on these 505 00:19:28,260 --> 00:19:26,830 other flights worked with these people 506 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:28,270 at some point you know and they saw me 507 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:30,190 up Eastern Airlines right I believe was 508 00:19:34,290 --> 00:19:33,010 easy and and they saw them again they 509 00:19:35,610 --> 00:19:34,300 would see them at the end of the plane 510 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:35,620 and by the time they get down there was 511 00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:37,809 the quote that he made Korean one of his 512 00:19:42,060 --> 00:19:39,670 parents's was they'll never be another 513 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:42,070 crash of one of these airplanes again 514 00:19:46,530 --> 00:19:44,890 and there was not to mention Eastern 515 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:46,540 Airlines actually taking the plants from 516 00:19:51,150 --> 00:19:48,850 a crashed airplane it's not uncommon 517 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:51,160 that's not it's not unbelievable it's 518 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:53,290 not uncommon it happens all the time it 519 00:19:56,530 --> 00:19:54,890 happens with cars when they go to a 520 00:19:58,570 --> 00:19:56,540 the chart there are parts that are not 521 00:20:00,160 --> 00:19:58,580 critical Airstream structures that can't 522 00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:00,170 use that stuff but there's things like 523 00:20:04,660 --> 00:20:02,630 internal 20 does that save them it saves 524 00:20:09,010 --> 00:20:04,670 a ton of money it's kind of like a new 525 00:20:10,690 --> 00:20:09,020 factor though I mean if someone wants to 526 00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:10,700 know never look inside the kitchen of a 527 00:20:19,150 --> 00:20:12,020 restaurant you like gentlemen if this is 528 00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,160 bothered tambourine thing there that's 529 00:20:22,660 --> 00:20:21,200 someone's asking if we broke into this 530 00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:22,670 studio and this guy's some type of 531 00:20:25,630 --> 00:20:24,350 broadcaster well I was gonna say you 532 00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:25,640 didn't know quite what you were maybe 533 00:20:30,130 --> 00:20:27,080 you're a hostage here and you don't I 534 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:30,140 really don't come in some type of just 535 00:20:36,010 --> 00:20:32,360 continue to talk Martin as we talked 536 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:36,020 before we came on the air that allows 537 00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:38,050 will go back quick yeah that's true 538 00:20:45,130 --> 00:20:43,460 let's see so exeter UFO that there's a 539 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:45,140 there's a conference here every year now 540 00:20:48,430 --> 00:20:46,730 there's a festival here estimates came 541 00:20:50,290 --> 00:20:48,440 up in September I'm gonna call that guy 542 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,300 I have to yes we're gonna make contact 543 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:52,640 with him yes yeah well let's go one bolt 544 00:20:57,820 --> 00:20:55,520 step if any from the Exeter UFO festival 545 00:21:00,910 --> 00:20:57,830 is watching this show or hears it at a 546 00:21:03,250 --> 00:21:00,920 later date and time we would be glad to 547 00:21:06,130 --> 00:21:03,260 hear from you as in the past commander 548 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:06,140 Cobra has had extreme difficulty sell to 549 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:09,170 anyone at this show to give command a 550 00:21:12,250 --> 00:21:10,730 covert a you have time now maybe because 551 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:12,260 they saw me in the helmet that's good be 552 00:21:15,610 --> 00:21:13,610 part of the reason tonight I'm wearing a 553 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:15,620 ball cap like everyone else so that we 554 00:21:20,350 --> 00:21:17,450 may have crossed that bridge well we'd 555 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:20,360 love to talk with Exeter I know the 556 00:21:23,890 --> 00:21:22,310 Kiwanis Club runs it but it's tough to 557 00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:23,900 get a hold of them - okay all right well 558 00:21:27,930 --> 00:21:25,070 you know we're gonna get in touch with 559 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:27,940 him okay don't me only inane of them yet 560 00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,530 wait for us to do the show so you're 561 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:32,720 surprised no well we're gonna wave round 562 00:21:36,820 --> 00:21:34,730 the bridge a communication is soon to be 563 00:21:38,260 --> 00:21:36,830 complete the m1 went well 564 00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:38,270 all right we have about a minute we're 565 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:39,830 gonna be going into breaking about just 566 00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:42,290 one minute or so and as always people 567 00:21:47,530 --> 00:21:45,350 that listen to my show we're gonna 568 00:21:49,210 --> 00:21:47,540 chitchat well I think we've done really 569 00:21:51,340 --> 00:21:49,220 nothing else but chitchat and we read 570 00:21:53,170 --> 00:21:51,350 them chitchat yes for sure we're not on 571 00:21:55,210 --> 00:21:53,180 any deep topic or anything so it's high 572 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:55,220 velocity chitchat yeah so during the 573 00:22:00,820 --> 00:21:56,450 break on YouTube you'll be able to 574 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:00,830 listen to more of this right yes okay 575 00:22:07,060 --> 00:22:05,810 all right so we absolutely have no 576 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:07,070 we're just here to have a conversation 577 00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:08,690 really we really don't have anything 578 00:22:14,740 --> 00:22:12,710 planned or anything no except for once 579 00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:14,750 again we have at the end of the show 580 00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:16,070 we're gonna have what you said 10 581 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:18,380 questions for one one question does that 582 00:22:21,250 --> 00:22:19,310 work exactly 583 00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:21,260 well we run a bunch of networks and one 584 00:22:25,030 --> 00:22:23,420 of them you know we send in the show at 585 00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:25,040 a certain length and in one of them it 586 00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:28,070 has to be 7 7 minutes shorter than 587 00:22:32,110 --> 00:22:30,080 everyone else so that means we have to 588 00:22:34,300 --> 00:22:32,120 do a segment that everyone else hears 589 00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:34,310 but this particular channel you know so 590 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:37,760 we we had to do a 7 know a seven minute 591 00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,770 segment every week so we came up with 592 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:41,840 this 10 questions for one one now it's a 593 00:22:46,810 --> 00:22:44,510 been a ratings bonanza for us right 594 00:22:49,450 --> 00:22:46,820 people of writing to me people sending 595 00:22:51,730 --> 00:22:49,460 in questions do I ask him and so on 596 00:22:53,170 --> 00:22:51,740 he's you saying he used to ask me for 597 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:53,180 the questions in advance but you know 598 00:22:56,740 --> 00:22:54,530 that doesn't make any sense yeah yeah 599 00:22:59,170 --> 00:22:56,750 otherwise right so that's we do and then 600 00:23:01,720 --> 00:22:59,180 we have our national correspondent Emily 601 00:23:04,450 --> 00:23:01,730 minima a call-in and she asks the 602 00:23:06,850 --> 00:23:04,460 questions and you know a little music - 603 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:06,860 written by the thing and then it's a 604 00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:12,970 program nothing but ten questions yeah 605 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:15,800 missing kids things don't work out in 606 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:18,170 college there is a career and the 607 00:23:22,030 --> 00:23:20,330 broadcasting world so the show is like 608 00:23:24,430 --> 00:23:22,040 about nothing right isn't that like 609 00:23:25,630 --> 00:23:24,440 Seinfeld or something I'm not sure if we 610 00:23:27,370 --> 00:23:25,640 mentioned him about how much we have to 611 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:27,380 pay so we gotta be very cautious we 612 00:23:30,370 --> 00:23:28,730 start throwing around sometimes it gets 613 00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:30,380 personal so we have to be very careful 614 00:23:33,790 --> 00:23:31,270 okay 615 00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:33,800 that's where that gets funny so yeah 616 00:23:37,330 --> 00:23:35,120 that's how we do that's where you can 617 00:23:38,110 --> 00:23:37,340 see us through the magic of radio yeah 618 00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:38,120 it gets personal 619 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:39,710 there you go are you in my shot there 620 00:23:46,810 --> 00:23:45,290 mom I got a feeling that gun hey now I'm 621 00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:46,820 gonna ask this question because I I 622 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:51,230 don't have like you know so now we now 623 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:52,400 we actually do have two minutes left 624 00:23:56,410 --> 00:23:54,710 okay so I'm gonna just go around here 625 00:23:58,900 --> 00:23:56,420 and just say Mac have you ever had a UFO 626 00:24:02,380 --> 00:23:58,910 sighting no I've had are you real close 627 00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:02,390 ones but no I haven't yeah everything 628 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:04,870 I've seen I found out was a military 629 00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:08,930 related event so no I mean no one more 630 00:24:14,980 --> 00:24:11,560 open and I've been in some of the most 631 00:24:17,020 --> 00:24:14,990 desolate places perfect opportunity no 632 00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:17,030 luck no dice are you about to say 633 00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:18,240 something back no 634 00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,340 gonna say that I think and I've been at 635 00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:22,080 this belief for a long long time is that 636 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:26,520 I think UFO as I put this they only show 637 00:24:30,350 --> 00:24:27,809 themselves to certain people I think 638 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:30,360 only certain people have UFO sightings 639 00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:31,830 and I think there's just something about 640 00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:34,200 those people that puts them in the right 641 00:24:37,820 --> 00:24:36,510 place the right time because we talked 642 00:24:39,410 --> 00:24:37,830 about it I've always had and I've read 643 00:24:40,790 --> 00:24:39,420 about you or for since I was a kid in my 644 00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:40,800 the back my man I've always thought I'm 645 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:42,900 never gonna see one it's almost like you 646 00:24:47,030 --> 00:24:44,370 know a little bit too much about them 647 00:24:48,890 --> 00:24:47,040 you know I don't think I'll ever see one 648 00:24:50,299 --> 00:24:48,900 I've had a couple most you know ones 649 00:24:52,340 --> 00:24:50,309 they said wow this has to be it and 650 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:52,350 turned out not to be soon well you know 651 00:24:58,790 --> 00:24:55,530 I talked to one particular person he's 652 00:24:59,720 --> 00:24:58,800 an old longtime researcher talked about 653 00:25:01,730 --> 00:24:59,730 him quite a bit on the show actually 654 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:01,740 he's been on my show race Stanford he 655 00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:04,410 did you know he is now race Stanford has 656 00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:06,240 had more sightings than anyone I've ever 657 00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:10,260 known ever believe he actually has like 658 00:25:14,290 --> 00:25:12,420 a feeling like a feeling he's gonna have 659 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:14,300 one and he always has his camera or 660 00:25:18,590 --> 00:25:16,770 video camera with him always has for 661 00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:18,600 who's he live the sixties he's down in 662 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:21,660 Maryland okay yeah if you say Las Vegas 663 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,750 I wouldn't been surprised all right 664 00:25:29,810 --> 00:25:26,880 looks like we're all ready for the we're 665 00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:29,820 ready for the break here and so this is 666 00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:32,640 Martin Willis and I am with one one I'm 667 00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:34,679 with Mack Maloney and commander Cobra 668 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:38,640 and we are in kgr a radio and stay with 669 00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:44,250 us we'll be back right after this all 670 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:46,350 right gentlemen we're in the clear and 671 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:49,650 we've got four minutes in minutes four 672 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:53,570 minutes right now we can really talk Oh 673 00:26:00,020 --> 00:25:57,840 max gone all right Mac did not take his 674 00:26:02,540 --> 00:26:00,030 remote mic with him so we do not know 675 00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:02,550 what Mac is up to yeah yeah that 676 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:04,470 wouldn't be a good thing if he was going 677 00:26:12,770 --> 00:26:06,150 in the John to bring his remote oh you 678 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:12,780 know no big deal live on still on 679 00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:15,510 YouTube so and that that we're reacting 680 00:26:22,970 --> 00:26:18,120 to not a Spectre but Matt the engineer 681 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:22,980 who yeah yeah Matson now oh yeah Matt's 682 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:24,570 on the YouTube right wave to the YouTube 683 00:26:28,909 --> 00:26:27,330 camera just a just a question for people 684 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:28,919 on YouTube while we're here at the break 685 00:26:32,210 --> 00:26:30,900 do you have any questions for our guests 686 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:32,220 go ahead and 687 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:33,539 just put it right in the chat room and I 688 00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:35,850 will pose those questions of course it's 689 00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:39,240 a 30-minute wait 36 30 second yeah yeah 690 00:26:45,169 --> 00:26:41,460 and I can't see anything anyway I can't 691 00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:45,179 read any do you want readers no that's 692 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:46,169 all right 693 00:26:51,730 --> 00:26:49,980 I'd rather yeah like I can sort of read 694 00:26:54,409 --> 00:26:51,740 it okay 695 00:26:57,919 --> 00:26:54,419 any news you're allowed to take him off 696 00:27:01,180 --> 00:26:57,929 to read your screen somewhat - no is any 697 00:27:04,580 --> 00:27:01,190 news on Eddie page and his supposed 698 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:04,590 metal retrieval pieces I think is that 699 00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:07,289 that's the guy from Roswell I think so 700 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:08,760 but I don't recognize the name right off 701 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:13,200 the bat all right let me just from what 702 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:17,340 I understand he went to I think he went 703 00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:20,730 to the like the land management because 704 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:27,030 he he went let's see Opie's Air Force 705 00:27:33,250 --> 00:27:30,960 Base stories anyone haven't I spend a 706 00:27:38,299 --> 00:27:33,260 lot of time there when I was a cadet 707 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:38,309 went to school an ROTC in Boston and it 708 00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:41,190 was quite the place when it had the FB 709 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:43,620 111 s as part of the nuclear deterrent I 710 00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:44,880 have a little bit of a story at Pease 711 00:27:48,980 --> 00:27:46,799 Air Force Base I worked for a company 712 00:27:50,510 --> 00:27:48,990 called cable Tron oh yeah 713 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:50,520 based in Rochester New Hampshire not 714 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:52,620 about 20 minutes away from peace 715 00:28:00,529 --> 00:27:57,450 Rochester I test that yeah and what are 716 00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:00,539 their training centers was in what was 717 00:28:08,419 --> 00:28:04,559 originally the hospital and one of the 718 00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:08,429 wings of the training center was above 719 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:13,080 the the morgue so one of the classrooms 720 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:16,110 was like dead smack in the middle of but 721 00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:18,840 would be the morgue underneath so ground 722 00:28:24,590 --> 00:28:21,720 level is his classroom more Gosset below 723 00:28:25,820 --> 00:28:24,600 ground from what I was told I never went 724 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:25,830 in there okay 725 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:29,970 and of course I didn't experience it but 726 00:28:35,419 --> 00:28:31,500 people who went to classes their 727 00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:35,429 previous to us and people who old-timers 728 00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:37,140 that taught this that they would hear 729 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:40,590 all kinds of strange voices from the 730 00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:43,289 basement this the place was cleared out 731 00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:45,270 it's not like there are pieces of bodies 732 00:28:51,139 --> 00:28:46,080 in there and it 733 00:28:52,909 --> 00:28:51,149 but yeah it cleared out empty spruced up 734 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:52,919 for a training center and they heard all 735 00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:56,250 kinds of voices from the morgue so it's 736 00:28:59,210 --> 00:28:57,360 kind of like a little bit of a ghost 737 00:29:01,279 --> 00:28:59,220 story from the capable truant training 738 00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:01,289 center that's a that's about all I have 739 00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:05,279 about peace but it's pretty creepy Wow 740 00:29:10,820 --> 00:29:06,960 I'm always looking forward to a creep 741 00:29:12,409 --> 00:29:10,830 show someplace but it hasn't happened to 742 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:12,419 me so someone must have just started 743 00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:14,429 listening they said why the sunglasses 744 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:16,529 and all that stuff and this guy who is 745 00:29:20,899 --> 00:29:18,330 this guy one one who are you someone 746 00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:20,909 wants to know who you are I'm just a guy 747 00:29:27,049 --> 00:29:24,750 who's the very interested in UFO and 748 00:29:29,299 --> 00:29:27,059 paranormal stuff but Mack and I've been 749 00:29:33,129 --> 00:29:29,309 longtime buddies I've been his IT guy 750 00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,139 for like 15 years as oh oh alright and 751 00:29:36,529 --> 00:29:35,039 thirty dreck 752 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:36,539 he dragged me in kicking and screaming 753 00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:39,570 to be did you copy that one one is my 754 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:42,600 computer yeah we have about 20 25 755 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:44,610 seconds to coming back on the air work 756 00:29:48,919 --> 00:29:46,970 this is the YouTube okay that's 757 00:29:50,690 --> 00:29:48,929 transmitted to you yeah I take an 758 00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:50,700 important call that's why I'm ya know we 759 00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:52,440 we and we touch they talked about your 760 00:30:02,629 --> 00:29:54,510 important calls or your the Mac you know 761 00:30:04,340 --> 00:30:02,639 Mac get ready to act normal okay oh I 762 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:04,350 hear someone laughing in the background 763 00:30:10,269 --> 00:30:08,490 nice it's just enough all right they 764 00:30:16,990 --> 00:30:10,279 must be down to about 10 seconds race 765 00:30:20,029 --> 00:30:17,000 here we go Martin in five four three two 766 00:30:23,180 --> 00:30:20,039 all right everyone we're back my name is 767 00:30:25,639 --> 00:30:23,190 Martin Willis podcast UFO and we have 1 768 00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:25,649 1 we have Mack Maloney and Commander 769 00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:29,220 Cobra and we are back feels like we 770 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:30,000 never left 771 00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:32,850 really yeah I don't think we were any I 772 00:30:37,549 --> 00:30:35,940 asked like over to write down any topic 773 00:30:41,180 --> 00:30:37,559 we were on but we really weren't on any 774 00:30:43,009 --> 00:30:41,190 well not a lot of notes here but you 775 00:30:45,529 --> 00:30:43,019 were speaking something about that had 776 00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:45,539 come into the chat room concerning metal 777 00:30:49,730 --> 00:30:46,200 recovered 778 00:30:52,220 --> 00:30:49,740 oh yes possibly in the Roswell area yeah 779 00:30:54,289 --> 00:30:52,230 I heard I don't know anything about what 780 00:30:57,799 --> 00:30:54,299 what the issue was in that particular if 781 00:30:59,389 --> 00:30:57,809 this is the same case is it was like a 782 00:31:01,519 --> 00:30:59,399 Land Management thing he 783 00:31:03,469 --> 00:31:01,529 wasn't supposed to retrieve metals from 784 00:31:05,209 --> 00:31:03,479 that property and he did so he had to 785 00:31:06,469 --> 00:31:05,219 see the board and basically what I heard 786 00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:06,479 about afterwards with that it was 787 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:07,679 everything was cool they were alright 788 00:31:12,409 --> 00:31:10,289 with it because it has if it's something 789 00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:12,419 that's in like considered in antiquity 790 00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,940 then it can't be removed all right that 791 00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:16,799 sounds so I mean how can you tell a rock 792 00:31:21,499 --> 00:31:19,529 is like I mean metal or gonna tell the 793 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:21,509 age of a lot of that stuff well yeah we 794 00:31:26,869 --> 00:31:24,690 have a show dedicated to Roswell mica 795 00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:26,879 but we show them on the recommendation 796 00:31:32,239 --> 00:31:30,299 of Oh me yeah right I got the Bob gross 797 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:32,249 yeah how did that smell went down went 798 00:31:34,999 --> 00:31:33,690 pretty good you have a second time went 799 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:35,009 perfect yeah no but he was an 800 00:31:41,749 --> 00:31:39,450 interesting guy really in my mind laid 801 00:31:42,979 --> 00:31:41,759 to rest you know as you know I don't 802 00:31:44,329 --> 00:31:42,989 really believe I don't believe anything 803 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:44,339 that happened in Roswell I think it's 804 00:31:48,259 --> 00:31:46,169 just you know well the miscommunication 805 00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:48,269 or something and he came up with the 806 00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:50,039 just the idea he took it from the 807 00:31:53,659 --> 00:31:52,080 balloon angle okay those balloons were 808 00:31:55,759 --> 00:31:53,669 flying around there all the time the 809 00:31:58,339 --> 00:31:55,769 secret project that they had going on 810 00:31:59,209 --> 00:31:58,349 and one of them crashed well I mean it 811 00:32:01,339 --> 00:31:59,219 sounds good 812 00:32:03,979 --> 00:32:01,349 and his story sounded really interesting 813 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:03,989 and and you know I had an open mind 814 00:32:12,859 --> 00:32:07,440 about it but Kevin Randall and him did 815 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:12,869 not have an open mind a little bit like 816 00:32:18,169 --> 00:32:15,210 a little cat fight cat fight yeah it's 817 00:32:19,099 --> 00:32:18,179 it's pretty yeah it's just it's there's 818 00:32:21,229 --> 00:32:19,109 threats going on 819 00:32:24,379 --> 00:32:21,239 oh really yeah that's great radio yeah 820 00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,389 that's my congratulation no it didn't 821 00:32:29,329 --> 00:32:26,399 happen live it just happened you know 822 00:32:32,329 --> 00:32:29,339 Kevin wrote a blog kind of contradicting 823 00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:32,339 a lot of what Bob Gross was saying about 824 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:34,379 that uh-huh so I still think it's an 825 00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:36,450 open mystery and probably will never be 826 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:37,919 resolved I really didn't answer one 827 00:32:45,229 --> 00:32:42,450 question I know Wow 828 00:32:49,489 --> 00:32:45,239 it wasn't what ripped pieces of rope 829 00:32:52,729 --> 00:32:49,499 among the debris of it and why would a 830 00:32:58,820 --> 00:32:52,739 UFO have rope I gotta throw some of the 831 00:33:01,869 --> 00:32:58,830 lines sometimes material no I I don't 832 00:33:06,589 --> 00:33:01,879 know did who is it that said was it 833 00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:06,599 Basel that said there was string who was 834 00:33:10,219 --> 00:33:08,849 saying there was was it him I've ever at 835 00:33:11,850 --> 00:33:10,229 a couple places that there was like 836 00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,860 string or some kind of rope and 837 00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:13,840 you know and and that the balsa wood 838 00:33:17,669 --> 00:33:16,390 came from a florist in Houston or 839 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:17,679 something like that that they used to 840 00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:19,690 sell their balsa wood that they would 841 00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:21,309 use in a florist shop for some reason 842 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:23,260 they'd sell it they'd resell it and 843 00:33:26,730 --> 00:33:25,030 these people were making the kite that 844 00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:26,740 you know led the balloon and so on and 845 00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:28,990 so forth but you know it's a cultural 846 00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:30,700 phenomenon you know and I'd love to get 847 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,830 down there and at one point I was gonna 848 00:33:36,990 --> 00:33:34,960 I actually volunteered for like an 849 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:37,000 acting logical thing I remember you know 850 00:33:40,530 --> 00:33:38,110 and I wouldn't went down there and done 851 00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:40,540 that but then I just looked more into it 852 00:33:44,970 --> 00:33:42,790 and I don't think anything really 853 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:44,980 happened there sorry to be the bucket of 854 00:33:54,450 --> 00:33:47,710 cold one of them no no is it everyone's 855 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:54,460 you know welcome to my opinion but no 856 00:33:58,260 --> 00:33:56,290 you know one of the there's a couple of 857 00:34:00,690 --> 00:33:58,270 things that are a really mystery and one 858 00:34:02,850 --> 00:34:00,700 of them is the field of debris being as 859 00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:02,860 large as it was as the largest they 860 00:34:07,790 --> 00:34:06,040 claimed it it was you know the metal is 861 00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:07,800 kind of curious I know he sorted an 862 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:09,929 answer for that mm-hmm you know 863 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:12,010 precursor to Kevlar I think it was 864 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:12,850 something like that 865 00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:15,730 right my life mylar yeah and maybe it 866 00:34:20,609 --> 00:34:17,080 was you know maybe that's what it was 867 00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:20,619 about but you know it had these really 868 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:22,750 unusual properties that I don't think 869 00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:24,730 mylar maybe does has those properties 870 00:34:29,970 --> 00:34:27,030 but then you know the thing that I find 871 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:29,980 the most curious about the whole 872 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:32,770 situation is and I've said this on my 873 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:35,169 show a few times is that the Air Force 874 00:34:39,090 --> 00:34:36,730 in the first place why would they say 875 00:34:40,859 --> 00:34:39,100 crashed flying saucer I think just as 876 00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:40,869 Cobras said many times and I agree with 877 00:34:43,950 --> 00:34:42,159 them I think that they were looking for 878 00:34:45,690 --> 00:34:43,960 some kind of cover story and that those 879 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:45,700 two weeks you know covers for what 880 00:34:49,409 --> 00:34:47,770 between for this secret project of 881 00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:49,419 sending these balloons over the Sun who 882 00:34:54,810 --> 00:34:51,730 would have known about it Mac Brazel 883 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:54,820 Basile no no I mean like you you say 884 00:34:58,740 --> 00:34:56,770 well we can't say what it really is a 885 00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,750 secret balloon so if the two weeks 886 00:35:03,390 --> 00:35:00,400 between the Ahnold sighting and Roswell 887 00:35:06,210 --> 00:35:03,400 it was like just crazy across you be 888 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:06,220 fair to set that setting as we there's a 889 00:35:11,099 --> 00:35:08,710 couple things and I still remain very 890 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:11,109 open on both sides of it but my tendency 891 00:35:14,849 --> 00:35:12,790 is to be an agreement with Mac that this 892 00:35:17,730 --> 00:35:14,859 is not the one to be hanging our hat on 893 00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:17,740 and and taking nothing away from the 894 00:35:21,930 --> 00:35:19,720 fine people of Roswell I've been there a 895 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:21,940 number of times I like seeing aliens cut 896 00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:23,800 into the done into the mosaics of the 897 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:25,270 elevators and all 898 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:27,490 tells in the museum and and the festival 899 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:29,170 it's a lot of fun and it's it's a great 900 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:30,610 stuff I've flown right over the area 901 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:33,850 where when I was on exchange to the Navy 902 00:35:37,350 --> 00:35:35,710 took our trainer jets and we flew right 903 00:35:42,690 --> 00:35:37,360 over the area to look at it as we came 904 00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:42,700 back to our base but at that time we 905 00:35:46,830 --> 00:35:44,440 were the only we wanted to be the only 906 00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:46,840 superpower that had atomic weapons and 907 00:35:52,590 --> 00:35:49,660 we were completely out of them and the 908 00:35:55,650 --> 00:35:52,600 Russians then detonated their their 909 00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,660 first tests and shortly a few years 910 00:35:59,490 --> 00:35:57,280 later the Chinese came up we didn't have 911 00:36:01,020 --> 00:35:59,500 satellites then we were pressing really 912 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,030 hard to have airplanes to do the over 913 00:36:05,310 --> 00:36:03,280 flights and to get the collection data 914 00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:05,320 to do that we were using these balloons 915 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:07,960 and that was a very sensitive program 916 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:09,490 and it wasn't sensitive because we were 917 00:36:13,230 --> 00:36:11,650 using balloons although I think in a way 918 00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:13,240 it was that they didn't want to ever 919 00:36:16,260 --> 00:36:15,040 think that we weren't flying supersonic 920 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:16,270 airplanes you could do all the stuff 921 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:18,010 that and we could protect the the mess 922 00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:20,650 and this I think goes right hand in hand 923 00:36:23,850 --> 00:36:22,630 with everything goes on with UFOs how 924 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:23,860 many times have we've talked about the 925 00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:26,290 rand study that says well the rand study 926 00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:28,600 says if we ever release information that 927 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,520 UFOs are real the stock market will 928 00:36:34,410 --> 00:36:32,320 crash the world economy go into a great 929 00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:34,420 different religions will fall apart 930 00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:36,910 because of these LW panic cats and dogs 931 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:39,580 living in Scent right now the whole 932 00:36:44,070 --> 00:36:42,730 enchilada right there I believe that 933 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:44,080 they saw that I also believe there's 934 00:36:48,570 --> 00:36:46,480 opportunistic people who look at this 935 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:48,580 and say this is a situation that we can 936 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:52,510 cover and do the whole thing and cover 937 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:56,050 up completely the reality of UFOs the 938 00:36:59,820 --> 00:36:57,610 reality of what we're doing and go back 939 00:37:01,380 --> 00:36:59,830 and forth it was a good time to start it 940 00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:01,390 you know an amuse you opposed to cover 941 00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:02,800 military programs right and we use 942 00:37:07,410 --> 00:37:05,260 military programs to cover UFOs what Mac 943 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:07,420 your favorite the lines I've used well 944 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:09,610 I'm gonna go back to I'm gonna go back 945 00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:12,190 to posing question I just did and that 946 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:15,640 is why even talk about it it's out in 947 00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:17,170 the middle of nowhere there's not like 948 00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:18,940 people that are gonna find it except for 949 00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:22,360 you know absol members might draw 950 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:24,550 attention to it why draw attention to me 951 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:26,290 why do they why did they just release 952 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:28,210 the UFO FILES in December that they 953 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:30,730 released claiming that the program is 954 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:33,850 not there because every opportunity that 955 00:37:37,890 --> 00:37:36,130 the government gets and when I say 956 00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:37,900 government it's that select group of 957 00:37:40,829 --> 00:37:39,190 people that see themselves 958 00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:40,839 how is the elitists that are that are 959 00:37:46,109 --> 00:37:43,150 running the rest of us on there well see 960 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:46,119 this is an opportunity to get a dipstick 961 00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:48,010 measurement where the where the world is 962 00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:49,089 that dipstick 963 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:50,920 so you think it was it if it was a 964 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:53,740 dipstick then I'm not calling you that 965 00:37:58,260 --> 00:37:55,810 but I'm saying if it was a dipstick 966 00:38:00,030 --> 00:37:58,270 measurement then why would they retract 967 00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:00,040 it the next day well first you have to 968 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:01,630 think of this way they knew the balloon 969 00:38:05,130 --> 00:38:03,730 crashed those people knew the balloon 970 00:38:06,990 --> 00:38:05,140 crashed they didn't know someone was 971 00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:07,000 gonna pick it up and claim you know and 972 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:09,849 and kind of embellish maybe what exactly 973 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:12,640 he picked up so they needed a cover 974 00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:14,890 story and then the UFO thing was going 975 00:38:18,359 --> 00:38:16,420 crazy for those two weeks people were 976 00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:18,369 seeing UFOs everywhere they said all 977 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:19,599 right why don't we just say we picked up 978 00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:22,810 a UFO and we divert it from what the 979 00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:24,520 real secret program was I think it was a 980 00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:25,630 jet that's simple 981 00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:27,220 I really don't well it's kind of 982 00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:29,440 convoluted I think oh and I believe that 983 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:31,630 that is part of the of the program is to 984 00:38:36,359 --> 00:38:33,970 have that convolution alright can we 985 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:36,369 just like disagree agree to disagree 986 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:38,650 type of thing but I'll say one thing you 987 00:38:42,510 --> 00:38:40,089 know and it's funny you be wrong all you 988 00:38:44,849 --> 00:38:42,520 want Martin that's fine I'm cool with 989 00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:44,859 this you know just it's funny the things 990 00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:46,240 that we do you know interviewing people 991 00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:47,560 and we're both been doing it you know 992 00:38:54,210 --> 00:38:51,520 for a while and when we were gonna um we 993 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:54,220 had Jesse myself jr. on ok now this is 994 00:38:57,180 --> 00:38:55,089 the son 995 00:38:59,849 --> 00:38:57,190 right who when he was the kid you know 996 00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:59,859 saw the metal you know ya know so on and 997 00:39:03,930 --> 00:39:01,839 so forth in the hieroglyphics back of my 998 00:39:05,490 --> 00:39:03,940 early days my angry days you know I was 999 00:39:07,770 --> 00:39:05,500 ready to really go toe-to-toe with him 1000 00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:07,780 and it turned that he was like the 1001 00:39:12,329 --> 00:39:10,270 nicest guy yeah yeah he was something 1002 00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:12,339 he's passed away right I say this you 1003 00:39:16,319 --> 00:39:13,839 know any chance I get he was just a 1004 00:39:18,270 --> 00:39:16,329 really nice guy and he went back he got 1005 00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:18,280 called back to Iraq when he was 74 he 1006 00:39:22,620 --> 00:39:21,220 wasn't dentists 74 he goes back to a war 1007 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:22,630 zone not many people do that 1008 00:39:26,970 --> 00:39:24,670 I know great guy so it changed the whole 1009 00:39:29,809 --> 00:39:26,980 flavor of the show he's funny in his 1010 00:39:32,849 --> 00:39:29,819 memory he did absolutely tremendous work 1011 00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:32,859 he not only just a dental work but he 1012 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,540 was able to do a lot of reconstructive 1013 00:39:40,319 --> 00:39:37,680 work folks so grievous injuries and it's 1014 00:39:41,609 --> 00:39:40,329 he's kind of a footnote to what went on 1015 00:39:43,770 --> 00:39:41,619 but there's a lot of folks that are 1016 00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:43,780 walking around with workable mandible 1017 00:39:50,609 --> 00:39:47,040 jaws have you know good facial 1018 00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:50,619 characteristics because a guy 74 years 1019 00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:51,680 old you know 1020 00:39:56,799 --> 00:39:55,190 packs up and humps 'as is dental kid and 1021 00:39:59,799 --> 00:39:56,809 his medical kit and it goes in there and 1022 00:40:02,770 --> 00:39:59,809 I mean all he does his work emergency 1023 00:40:04,030 --> 00:40:02,780 recovery and unfortunately there was 1024 00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:04,040 plenty of opportunity for his 1025 00:40:08,140 --> 00:40:06,140 outstanding skills to go and he was a 1026 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:08,150 very sweet guy I mean is no other way to 1027 00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:10,130 put it but I know what's interesting he 1028 00:40:14,319 --> 00:40:13,040 had moved up to Idaho I think in the 1029 00:40:15,790 --> 00:40:14,329 last few years his life because he 1030 00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:15,800 couldn't take it in Roswell anymore I 1031 00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:17,569 think that's kind of telling to him and 1032 00:40:21,940 --> 00:40:20,180 he told us that oh wow I'm so but nice 1033 00:40:23,230 --> 00:40:21,950 guy and a real good veteran real hero 1034 00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:23,240 you don't hear very much about what he 1035 00:40:24,910 --> 00:40:23,599 did 1036 00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:24,920 no not that part of his life no you 1037 00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,990 don't well I do agree about one thing 1038 00:40:31,210 --> 00:40:28,640 about Roswell that it's it has become 1039 00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:31,220 more or less a circus yeah I can't blame 1040 00:40:34,569 --> 00:40:32,720 them though I mean it's a lot of fun 1041 00:40:36,579 --> 00:40:34,579 it's like snob wasn't Star Trek you know 1042 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:36,589 it's like a pop cultural thing and I'd 1043 00:40:39,549 --> 00:40:37,970 love to be down there man I think it'd 1044 00:40:41,980 --> 00:40:39,559 be great so it's just a Chamber of 1045 00:40:43,930 --> 00:40:41,990 Commerce episode there right yeah 1046 00:40:45,490 --> 00:40:43,940 there's a lot of organizations there 1047 00:40:47,620 --> 00:40:45,500 does I think a lot of people realize 1048 00:40:50,650 --> 00:40:47,630 that there was money to be made on that 1049 00:40:52,780 --> 00:40:50,660 I mean we we all not a marketing going 1050 00:40:54,849 --> 00:40:52,790 on yeah we market our all market our 1051 00:40:57,370 --> 00:40:54,859 shows I mean I I'm not against any of 1052 00:40:59,470 --> 00:40:57,380 that what I do get a little bit puffed 1053 00:41:01,420 --> 00:40:59,480 up with and Roswell tends to have some 1054 00:41:03,339 --> 00:41:01,430 sensitivity on it is if you just you 1055 00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:03,349 know you want to debate some point of it 1056 00:41:08,859 --> 00:41:06,140 no no you got to take this there's only 1057 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:08,869 I always reserve that for church and and 1058 00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:12,170 not even Church okay no I think I think 1059 00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:17,030 any UFO case it's just like you know if 1060 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:20,990 something gets proven then they you know 1061 00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:23,900 and it's it's a slam dunk then you 1062 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:25,670 should just move on well you know and 1063 00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:28,630 one more really quick question quick 1064 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:37,450 yeah that's my street name we all got 1065 00:41:42,220 --> 00:41:38,930 street names about a year ago 1066 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:42,230 so for YouTube he was yeah smooth you're 1067 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:48,290 having a smoothy smooth I was I think 1068 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:51,770 mine something something yeah mmm Def 1069 00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:54,530 Jam or something and he was Coco Co Co 1070 00:41:58,539 --> 00:41:56,569 command the Cobra so I forgot what we're 1071 00:42:00,970 --> 00:41:58,549 talking about meat on you he had one 1072 00:42:03,579 --> 00:42:00,980 more comment I was gonna say in in in 1073 00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:03,589 UFOs one time which agrees is he also 1074 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:05,190 you know already 1075 00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,960 engine available everywhere available 1076 00:42:11,540 --> 00:42:09,359 thank you one one friend yeah there's a 1077 00:42:13,730 --> 00:42:11,550 story in there about this ICBM base that 1078 00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:13,740 they put in the West okay back in the 1079 00:42:19,730 --> 00:42:17,520 60s dug the hole for the ICBM pits and 1080 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:19,740 all of a sudden UFO started showing them 1081 00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:22,530 extremely well documented case Wow 1082 00:42:27,470 --> 00:42:24,569 the Ariat nary a peep they build the 1083 00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:27,480 ICBM base they get it operational and 1084 00:42:31,309 --> 00:42:29,160 there's so many you're flying over this 1085 00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:31,319 place at night the night guys refused 1086 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:33,150 duty they actually like went to jail and 1087 00:42:40,819 --> 00:42:37,650 stepping on duty yeah so anyway this one 1088 00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:40,829 I felt like a long time and so much so 1089 00:42:44,059 --> 00:42:42,089 that you know they'd have people down 1090 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:44,069 there you know requesting transfers and 1091 00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,050 so on and so forth the interesting thing 1092 00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:48,720 is that ICBM base is in Roswell or was 1093 00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,480 in Roswell to me that's a biggest story 1094 00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:53,040 what's going on there 1095 00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:55,140 you know there Neri up finding solve 1096 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:56,640 that right that for your book and a few 1097 00:42:59,900 --> 00:42:58,290 other really that's amazing thank you 1098 00:43:02,380 --> 00:42:59,910 very much amazing thank you very much 1099 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:02,390 cool so one thing I want to say about 1100 00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:04,290 sort of a lot of Leslie seriously 1101 00:43:15,099 --> 00:43:10,550 through music I cannot I can't see 1102 00:43:18,109 --> 00:43:15,109 motional know yeah the show does that 1103 00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:18,119 the takeaway I had from Lou 1104 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:22,470 Allison doe this last weekend was that 1105 00:43:26,329 --> 00:43:25,200 he says that this time next year you 1106 00:43:28,370 --> 00:43:26,339 just wait and see where we're gonna be 1107 00:43:30,740 --> 00:43:28,380 at there's no some kind of disclosure 1108 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,750 type situation that's been yeah he kinda 1109 00:43:34,370 --> 00:43:32,400 I really I know that's been a really 1110 00:43:37,940 --> 00:43:34,380 reasoning like I know I respect really 1111 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:37,950 his tact and how he's doing what he's 1112 00:43:42,140 --> 00:43:39,690 done and he followed correct lines he 1113 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:42,150 didn't do leaking he's done everything 1114 00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:43,530 the way you're supposed to do it right 1115 00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:46,319 and and in defense of and I have been 1116 00:43:53,390 --> 00:43:47,730 very critical about the length of time 1117 00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:53,400 and I've been very I haven't been over I 1118 00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:54,720 have not been overwhelmed by anything 1119 00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,660 that's been released one of the you and 1120 00:44:00,349 --> 00:43:59,040 I talked about one of the clips that 1121 00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:00,359 came out and I had seen that someplace 1122 00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:03,960 else that was on there and I just don't 1123 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:06,060 see any thing fantastic about except 1124 00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:07,200 there was a really good piece of work by 1125 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:08,910 the crew members that were flying the 1126 00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:12,170 last one but he's done some incredible 1127 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:15,089 foundational work to let the freedom of 1128 00:44:19,940 --> 00:44:18,570 ation act take effect on a lot of stuff 1129 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:19,950 because of the precedence he set it up 1130 00:44:25,850 --> 00:44:22,530 but I'm always going to be questioning I 1131 00:44:27,250 --> 00:44:25,860 seems like a square round to me of he's 1132 00:44:30,020 --> 00:44:27,260 just a good man 1133 00:44:34,090 --> 00:44:30,030 but there are folks all around this that 1134 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:34,100 are gonna obstacles to keep this 1135 00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:36,170 obfuscate up to say 1136 00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:42,830 yes I wanted to get paid extra nice one 1137 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:48,540 of the one of the phrases he said to the 1138 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:51,210 bantha and his talk was he said I'd 1139 00:44:55,850 --> 00:44:54,210 rather be right than right now he says 1140 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:55,860 and it's hard for everyone to be patient 1141 00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:58,170 prices but you know trust me just hang 1142 00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:58,850 in there 1143 00:45:03,620 --> 00:45:01,920 so I believe him you know like he is 1144 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:03,630 doing things the right way or trying to 1145 00:45:08,330 --> 00:45:06,090 do and then he has his lawyers he's got 1146 00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:08,340 you know they have the publicists there 1147 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:10,440 at you know to the stars Academy and all 1148 00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:13,050 that and like I couldn't interview him I 1149 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:14,640 mean I'm standing right there talking to 1150 00:45:17,780 --> 00:45:15,930 him for half an hour or whatever but I 1151 00:45:21,470 --> 00:45:17,790 couldn't interview him until they talked 1152 00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:21,480 to the lawyer and yeah Wow yeah just to 1153 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:23,880 me mmm I will I'm gonna throw one very 1154 00:45:26,570 --> 00:45:25,290 quickly I'll throw this one piece in you 1155 00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:26,580 hear me talk about it people are 1156 00:45:30,290 --> 00:45:27,780 probably getting tired we bring it up 1157 00:45:32,570 --> 00:45:30,300 but the hottest piece the hottest piece 1158 00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:32,580 of Intel gathering that's going on right 1159 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:34,590 now is crowdsourcing that is the number 1160 00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:36,450 one way that we are getting Intel and 1161 00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:38,040 everybody else is getting Intel around 1162 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,950 the world it's attractive because you 1163 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:42,240 don't have to use people with security 1164 00:45:45,380 --> 00:45:43,410 clearances you just need people with 1165 00:45:47,090 --> 00:45:45,390 computers and you have them going they 1166 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:47,100 run through social media they look 1167 00:45:51,350 --> 00:45:48,690 through search engines not what people 1168 00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:51,360 are are what people are looking at 1169 00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:53,460 that's all you care about you don't 1170 00:45:59,180 --> 00:45:55,710 really care about the individuals but so 1171 00:46:01,630 --> 00:45:59,190 for counterterrorism if let's say the 1172 00:46:04,340 --> 00:46:01,640 Pope is coming to visit they will start 1173 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:04,350 weeks months ahead of time to see who's 1174 00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:06,690 looking up things about the city that 1175 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:07,980 the Pope's going till they'll look to 1176 00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:10,410 see if there's a Holy See inquiries that 1177 00:46:14,660 --> 00:46:11,670 will start working with that then they 1178 00:46:17,090 --> 00:46:14,670 start to look at texting Twitter's all 1179 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:17,100 those things and you just you t you have 1180 00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:18,570 teams and teams of people that are 1181 00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:20,430 looking for particular parts in pieces 1182 00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,100 there's no doubt in my mind if it was 1183 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:24,960 intentional or if it was in part part of 1184 00:46:28,340 --> 00:46:26,970 the program I don't think mr. Sandro 1185 00:46:30,770 --> 00:46:28,350 gives me the impression that was part of 1186 00:46:31,770 --> 00:46:30,780 it but that was used as a means to 1187 00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:31,780 figure out 1188 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:34,390 how does this how did this go to the how 1189 00:46:36,810 --> 00:46:35,890 did it distribute in an intermediate 1190 00:46:38,730 --> 00:46:36,820 it's ready to go 1191 00:46:40,350 --> 00:46:38,740 we're tracking at the trucking transit 1192 00:46:42,090 --> 00:46:40,360 tracking the next and each part of its 1193 00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:42,100 like the the pebble in the end the in 1194 00:46:45,870 --> 00:46:44,230 the pond where the Rings go and when 1195 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:45,880 they wrap around another obstacle where 1196 00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:48,370 do those rings go the I think that we're 1197 00:46:54,030 --> 00:46:51,430 still my guests this past week of my 1198 00:46:56,220 --> 00:46:54,040 show but we him and I got into a company 1199 00:46:57,870 --> 00:46:56,230 were in a complete agreement how much we 1200 00:46:59,490 --> 00:46:57,880 and you've heard me on this how I hate 1201 00:47:01,080 --> 00:46:59,500 the Patriot Act because of what it's 1202 00:47:03,450 --> 00:47:01,090 allowed to do where we went and how 1203 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:03,460 absolutely that they'll never stuff that 1204 00:47:07,230 --> 00:47:05,410 genie back in the bottle and we're still 1205 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:07,240 playing that games and this is part of 1206 00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:08,890 it that's why we don't have answers 1207 00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:10,630 that's why we we still have a lot of 1208 00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:12,640 conjecture and this crap going on and it 1209 00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:14,380 when we say government it just drives me 1210 00:47:20,970 --> 00:47:18,190 crazy it's us you know Pogo I've seen 1211 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,980 the enemy and it's us well I'm in 1212 00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:22,720 paraphrased excuse me I think this is a 1213 00:47:28,890 --> 00:47:25,950 play right now you should plug your show 1214 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:28,900 well I I have the rare distinction of 1215 00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:31,690 saying that I have in front of me 1216 00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:34,270 three men that have been guests on task 1217 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:36,280 force Griffin each one of these men have 1218 00:47:42,810 --> 00:47:38,530 been a guest on my show one was a 1219 00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:42,820 one-man listen event one one whole hour 1220 00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:44,680 why didn't you tell me about one why did 1221 00:47:49,110 --> 00:47:46,660 a classically good job because Juan Juan 1222 00:47:52,590 --> 00:47:49,120 is one of the leaders in this medium 1223 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:52,600 years before he had a computer program 1224 00:47:56,970 --> 00:47:54,850 before anybody else was doing computer 1225 00:47:59,610 --> 00:47:56,980 program he had a program like this 1226 00:48:01,800 --> 00:47:59,620 talking about computers on the radio 1227 00:48:07,650 --> 00:48:01,810 right that's right and I had Dan Brown 1228 00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:07,660 and Dan Brown nobody is a close personal 1229 00:48:11,970 --> 00:48:10,150 friend of Wan WAN right he was a lot ago 1230 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:11,980 is the word we like to use you wrote The 1231 00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:14,530 Da Vinci Code one one was there his 1232 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:16,150 press kit was like this piece of paper 1233 00:48:21,330 --> 00:48:18,370 and when one one with all those colors 1234 00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:21,340 that's right okay Wow you know his first 1235 00:48:25,860 --> 00:48:22,900 book was digital fortress and I was 1236 00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:25,870 previewing that book and Dan Brown on my 1237 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:28,710 show it was about the internet that run 1238 00:48:32,970 --> 00:48:31,090 wk XL radio in Concord New Hampshire 1239 00:48:34,740 --> 00:48:32,980 back when did I feel it need released 1240 00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:34,750 that book is that station stole what 1241 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:36,910 this sorry yet is it is it's changed 1242 00:48:41,220 --> 00:48:38,290 ownership a number of times 1243 00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:41,230 hey Mac I can't keep one of those forty 1244 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:42,880 thousand dollars for the sound effects 1245 00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:45,170 general I'll fix you up for your next 1246 00:48:50,770 --> 00:48:48,350 I have fake checks yes we do it turns 1247 00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:50,780 out ya know there was a time then that 1248 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:52,910 these two guys behind my back actually 1249 00:48:56,050 --> 00:48:54,410 went and bought your own socks right I 1250 00:48:57,700 --> 00:48:56,060 got one in my glove compartment yes I'll 1251 00:49:03,190 --> 00:48:57,710 let you have it you have one in your 1252 00:49:04,810 --> 00:49:03,200 chest and are you a secret aircraft and 1253 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:04,820 so we had to write a little bit into the 1254 00:49:09,310 --> 00:49:07,790 contract right yes you took a hide but 1255 00:49:11,890 --> 00:49:09,320 the neighbor across the streets pretty 1256 00:49:12,550 --> 00:49:11,900 annoyed you know yeah he'll get over it 1257 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:12,560 all right 1258 00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:16,850 well we'll say I'm off well so let's see 1259 00:49:23,710 --> 00:49:19,280 another thing about I think about this 1260 00:49:25,570 --> 00:49:23,720 whole you know situation is what you 1261 00:49:30,310 --> 00:49:25,580 mentioned earlier I think over you said 1262 00:49:31,870 --> 00:49:30,320 something about you know testing you 1263 00:49:33,550 --> 00:49:31,880 know what would happen to religions and 1264 00:49:37,150 --> 00:49:33,560 all that I got to tell you someone sent 1265 00:49:39,070 --> 00:49:37,160 me jobs the guy who listens to my show 1266 00:49:41,740 --> 00:49:39,080 sent sent a clip I watched it last night 1267 00:49:44,590 --> 00:49:41,750 and it was 1962 and it was actually in 1268 00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,600 England and this radio announcer was in 1269 00:49:48,490 --> 00:49:46,640 walking the streets and saying do you 1270 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:48,500 believe in life on other planets 1271 00:49:52,090 --> 00:49:50,210 he said just like that you know I mean 1272 00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:52,100 of course they could be thinking people 1273 00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:53,510 were thinking probably just our solar 1274 00:49:58,830 --> 00:49:55,730 system at the time some people said yes 1275 00:50:01,780 --> 00:49:58,840 one guy said I do because I saw a UFO 1276 00:50:03,070 --> 00:50:01,790 and it was like a flying saucer and it 1277 00:50:05,470 --> 00:50:03,080 had things coming out of it you know and 1278 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:05,480 all this but most people would say no I 1279 00:50:12,010 --> 00:50:07,970 don't believe there's any life and then 1280 00:50:14,770 --> 00:50:12,020 one guy said no because of the Bible and 1281 00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:14,780 so you know did this back in 60 and back 1282 00:50:20,410 --> 00:50:17,510 in 62 I think it's a whole different 1283 00:50:22,660 --> 00:50:20,420 time now or I think I think we're slowly 1284 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:22,670 getting used to the idea anyway even if 1285 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:26,450 even if in the late 1800s people believe 1286 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:28,850 there was people living on Mars when I 1287 00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:31,250 looked at Mars Phobos they always 1288 00:50:35,110 --> 00:50:33,470 thought they're the Canali which it no 1289 00:50:37,150 --> 00:50:35,120 one could ever quite figured out the 1290 00:50:38,890 --> 00:50:37,160 canal part of it because maybe you're 1291 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:38,900 saying cannoli it could be kind of 1292 00:50:45,490 --> 00:50:40,610 chance of it leave the planet take the 1293 00:50:47,650 --> 00:50:45,500 cannolis but because of the sand storms 1294 00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:47,660 you would see it they were convinced 1295 00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,280 that that was wheat fields they were 1296 00:50:53,980 --> 00:50:50,960 harvesting wheat up there and you know 1297 00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:53,990 it wasn't and then you know as science 1298 00:50:57,610 --> 00:50:56,030 comes along you know that gets all 1299 00:50:59,620 --> 00:50:57,620 poo-pooed 1300 00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:59,630 I always cracks me up when people say 1301 00:51:03,790 --> 00:51:01,520 that that the Bible is what tells me 1302 00:51:05,650 --> 00:51:03,800 that it can't be life and if that or did 1303 00:51:06,940 --> 00:51:05,660 there isn't ghosts are you kidding me 1304 00:51:08,740 --> 00:51:06,950 are you reading the same Bible I'm 1305 00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:08,750 reading if you go back into the Old 1306 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:11,590 Testament there looks like there's 1307 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:13,490 extraterrestrials running around yep you 1308 00:51:20,860 --> 00:51:17,930 have angels demons spirits you have all 1309 00:51:25,210 --> 00:51:20,870 kinds of interesting activity you talk 1310 00:51:28,780 --> 00:51:25,220 about mating and you know that then of 1311 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:28,790 course did you get into some did you see 1312 00:51:35,410 --> 00:51:32,570 mating yes yeah they talk about folks 1313 00:51:38,020 --> 00:51:35,420 that that appear angelic that have 1314 00:51:39,610 --> 00:51:38,030 relations with with women it's there but 1315 00:51:41,650 --> 00:51:39,620 what's the matter with you and now 1316 00:51:44,050 --> 00:51:41,660 you're talking you'd seem that the Bible 1317 00:51:46,450 --> 00:51:44,060 is like I read in x-rays or something 1318 00:51:50,140 --> 00:51:46,460 well yeah there's all this maybe the way 1319 00:51:52,510 --> 00:51:50,150 you read it yeah well don't play that 1320 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:52,520 back it's an easier read that way 1321 00:51:58,570 --> 00:51:55,850 well we have one celebrity those who who 1322 00:52:00,550 --> 00:51:58,580 hopes and it's pretty assured that 1323 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:00,560 there's UFOs and that's my buddy Keith 1324 00:52:05,020 --> 00:52:02,570 Richards that's right he was asked one 1325 00:52:08,380 --> 00:52:05,030 time on this is that videos on YouTube 1326 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:08,390 and his Facebook page so Keith do you 1327 00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:13,970 believe in UFOs he says he says I think 1328 00:52:21,310 --> 00:52:19,030 it has to be exactly the way he says it 1329 00:52:23,290 --> 00:52:21,320 it's a little more I can't wait hear it 1330 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:23,300 there I can't I can't wait him I can't 1331 00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:27,290 wait to see things we need coherent we 1332 00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:27,920 need the help 1333 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:30,800 beam me up Scotty you know he just goes 1334 00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:32,570 on from its it's just fantastic 1335 00:52:38,980 --> 00:52:36,710 if a mystic guy who is grounded in the 1336 00:52:41,170 --> 00:52:38,990 here and now but he also knows his 1337 00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:41,180 history and he's and he's pretty sure 1338 00:52:45,490 --> 00:52:43,790 that there are UFOs that's got to be 1339 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:45,500 gonna be this is Keith you talk about 1340 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:47,810 Keith Richards yes yes I don't know what 1341 00:52:52,780 --> 00:52:50,210 transfusion yeah and that's that's all a 1342 00:52:54,550 --> 00:52:52,790 myth read his book his book is great all 1343 00:52:57,310 --> 00:52:54,560 right yeah he's definitely a believer 1344 00:53:00,160 --> 00:52:57,320 all right all right so we have a we have 1345 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:00,170 three minutes to break okay okay you 1346 00:53:04,090 --> 00:53:02,330 know this studio is actually haunted we 1347 00:53:07,450 --> 00:53:04,100 talk about it in almost every week yeah 1348 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:07,460 and so and in it all started when we 1349 00:53:10,769 --> 00:53:08,810 first came here we were here the first 1350 00:53:12,359 --> 00:53:10,779 night everyone else had gone 1351 00:53:14,939 --> 00:53:12,369 it was in the fall it was Don account 1352 00:53:16,949 --> 00:53:14,949 and some guy walked by the door I didn't 1353 00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:16,959 see him I should have seen I thought I 1354 00:53:21,149 --> 00:53:19,359 recognized him I was wrong no one can 1355 00:53:21,689 --> 00:53:21,159 figure out you know how we get in where 1356 00:53:23,699 --> 00:53:21,699 he went 1357 00:53:25,919 --> 00:53:23,709 this cameras hands walk by this store 1358 00:53:28,739 --> 00:53:25,929 right here the next studio over so let 1359 00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:28,749 me set this up for just a tiny bit I'm 1360 00:53:35,309 --> 00:53:32,640 on remote with them that night yeah and 1361 00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:35,319 when the studio first opened up there 1362 00:53:38,759 --> 00:53:36,849 was a lot of moving from the other 1363 00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:38,769 radios to the views Don at Newport 1364 00:53:42,689 --> 00:53:40,900 there's Pete oh man you know there's all 1365 00:53:44,909 --> 00:53:42,699 kinds of activity going on so it wasn't 1366 00:53:46,469 --> 00:53:44,919 uncommon why we were taping and getting 1367 00:53:48,449 --> 00:53:46,479 the show together that people would be 1368 00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:48,459 you know be coming through you know 1369 00:53:53,339 --> 00:53:50,169 bringing stuff in getting ready and then 1370 00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:53,349 you know the on-air portion of WX DX 1371 00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:55,209 activity so they're talking about this 1372 00:53:58,289 --> 00:53:56,559 in the background and you know who the 1373 00:53:59,669 --> 00:53:58,299 hell was that that that went by in what 1374 00:54:01,620 --> 00:53:59,679 was that and all that kind of stuff and 1375 00:54:02,999 --> 00:54:01,630 I noted it but I didn't think anybody 1376 00:54:05,099 --> 00:54:03,009 could we had lots of people here well 1377 00:54:06,479 --> 00:54:05,109 then gentlemen take up what goes over 1378 00:54:08,099 --> 00:54:06,489 for the next few turns out there was a 1379 00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:08,109 guy here you know was an engineer who 1380 00:54:12,359 --> 00:54:10,689 worked here for like 70 years so did you 1381 00:54:14,459 --> 00:54:12,369 say 70 or something like that a very 1382 00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:14,469 long line and he's in the Bible Marty 1383 00:54:18,929 --> 00:54:17,140 live like he lived like two doors down 1384 00:54:20,249 --> 00:54:18,939 you know he lived in the neighborhood 1385 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:20,259 and the neighborhood would walk to work 1386 00:54:25,019 --> 00:54:22,650 all these years you know and apparently 1387 00:54:28,259 --> 00:54:25,029 drop dead right here somewhere in the 1388 00:54:30,899 --> 00:54:28,269 station goes to it yeah Bob the ghost 1389 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:30,909 yeah Bob the ghost no lights used to 1390 00:54:34,380 --> 00:54:33,130 flicker mites have flickered on the hair 1391 00:54:35,609 --> 00:54:34,390 you can hear something you okay it's 1392 00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:35,619 been some stuff where they've talked 1393 00:54:39,989 --> 00:54:37,569 about it and then Bob is reacted just 1394 00:54:42,059 --> 00:54:39,999 here my dad recently lets back today 1395 00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:42,069 purport they did sort of like a junior 1396 00:54:46,499 --> 00:54:44,049 exorcism in the last three four months 1397 00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:46,509 they pissed off Bob yeah really yeah I 1398 00:54:54,149 --> 00:54:50,079 don't think we're supposed to say Amen 1399 00:54:55,709 --> 00:54:54,159 folks I didn't mean it all right let's 1400 00:54:57,899 --> 00:54:55,719 do a little shout out to Bob if he's 1401 00:55:00,179 --> 00:54:57,909 here tonight Bob the ghost yeah Bob 1402 00:55:02,309 --> 00:55:00,189 thanks ooming that he's around Bob 1403 00:55:04,439 --> 00:55:02,319 thanks for your spiritual engineering 1404 00:55:08,370 --> 00:55:04,449 that is because I just saw someone walk 1405 00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:08,380 by the door one shadow sheri though 1406 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:12,689 that's the mat the engineer that was Bob 1407 00:55:19,019 --> 00:55:16,089 Wow anyway so I told everyone this would 1408 00:55:20,249 --> 00:55:19,029 be entertaining I think it is so we're 1409 00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:20,259 gonna so good we still doesn't really 1410 00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:21,609 matter what you think Martin is really 1411 00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:23,680 knows what they think that's true 1412 00:55:28,059 --> 00:55:26,000 believe me they let me know all right 1413 00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:28,069 everyone we're ready to go on a break 1414 00:55:34,660 --> 00:55:31,250 this is Martin Willis with podcast UFO 1415 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:34,670 on kgr a radio in YouTube and we'll be 1416 00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:36,530 right back stay with us we're wait a 1417 00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:38,030 minute I forgot to say who we're here 1418 00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:41,510 with we have 1 1 na koni cobra and we'll 1419 00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:48,049 be right back alright gang we've got 4 1420 00:55:51,789 --> 00:55:50,329 minutes in this break as well and Martin 1421 00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:51,799 were going commercial free for the 1422 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:54,319 second hour correct that's correct whoa 1423 00:55:59,319 --> 00:55:56,450 wowie commercial-free bought it can I 1424 00:56:01,900 --> 00:55:59,329 ask a question please please do okay why 1425 00:56:04,690 --> 00:56:01,910 is one one being introduced before me 1426 00:56:06,250 --> 00:56:04,700 and Cobra well should be you wanna want 1427 00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:06,260 it I didn't want to say that I didn't 1428 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:08,569 want to be immodest I didn't bring it up 1429 00:56:16,660 --> 00:56:10,250 yeah why is he being introduced before 1430 00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:16,670 me he wanted to go clockwise and from 1431 00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:18,710 his perspective clockwise would start 1432 00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:19,280 with me 1433 00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:21,710 actually I'm 12 o'clock high for him 1434 00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:24,079 actually there are like two o'clock it 1435 00:56:30,460 --> 00:56:25,040 was worth 20 bucks 1436 00:56:32,170 --> 00:56:30,470 oh really yeah only 20 Wow okay you'll 1437 00:56:34,930 --> 00:56:32,180 see both plus have been trying to check 1438 00:56:37,180 --> 00:56:34,940 out the setup here in like 30 30 minutes 1439 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:37,190 and I'm glad Matt you did it you did it 1440 00:56:43,180 --> 00:56:40,490 then you kown again yeah you put it 1441 00:56:45,849 --> 00:56:43,190 together that night did it okay this is 1442 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:45,859 Matt's studio I said we want to go into 1443 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:49,010 his drawers yeah Wow well we probably 1444 00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:53,690 didn't want to say that but I got that 1445 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:00,559 gig hey Mack yes I just wanted to say I 1446 00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:02,210 was looking at you on video dude you 1447 00:57:16,180 --> 00:57:13,030 look good let's take a retake nice going 1448 00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:16,190 Radio fall Wow 1449 00:57:28,030 --> 00:57:18,049 so again we're sorry about that on 1450 00:57:31,410 --> 00:57:28,040 YouTube this is a u.s. bandit yeah that 1451 00:57:33,460 --> 00:57:31,420 just shows you I must look a mess 1452 00:57:35,230 --> 00:57:33,470 remember earlier what I told you when 1453 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:35,240 these two were on what I mean when they 1454 00:57:39,249 --> 00:57:37,130 really got on 1455 00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:39,259 yeah they were gold this is just kind of 1456 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:41,599 Madelyn Lewis this was this was just a 1457 00:57:45,730 --> 00:57:43,730 very small taste of what it was like 1458 00:57:48,339 --> 00:57:45,740 when look when he pulled the ripcord and 1459 00:57:50,259 --> 00:57:48,349 these two were going it was fantastic 1460 00:57:52,089 --> 00:57:50,269 I'm gonna tell you something you're not 1461 00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:52,099 gonna find two bigger Patriots on the 1462 00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:54,319 planet than Mac and me I agree with that 1463 00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:56,000 everything he says in that voice sounds 1464 00:57:59,620 --> 00:57:57,109 like you should believe them you know 1465 00:58:01,269 --> 00:57:59,630 what I totally give me 200 bucks and 1466 00:58:07,749 --> 00:58:01,279 I'll bet it on the Patriots down here 1467 00:58:10,650 --> 00:58:07,759 with my Vietnamese bookies yeah he does 1468 00:58:14,349 --> 00:58:10,660 have a very commanding voice he does 1469 00:58:18,609 --> 00:58:14,359 sound terrific yeah how many minutes we 1470 00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:18,619 have we have like we have a lot 30 40 40 1471 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:20,329 seconds left or what seconds you got it 1472 00:58:23,529 --> 00:58:21,650 okay well you know I 1473 00:58:25,809 --> 00:58:23,539 I'll take advantage of the 40 seconds so 1474 00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:25,819 yeah 40 seconds to say because of Mac 1475 00:58:33,999 --> 00:58:31,000 and because of race we're all here no 1476 00:58:34,990 --> 00:58:34,009 really I remember the days when race 1477 00:58:36,339 --> 00:58:35,000 would call me up 1478 00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:36,349 are you free what are you doing I'm 1479 00:58:42,579 --> 00:58:38,960 washing dishes right now race Mac guest 1480 00:58:44,859 --> 00:58:42,589 just crapped out money to do this show 1481 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:44,869 commander where's commander actor those 1482 00:58:51,370 --> 00:58:46,970 days yeah yeah all right I think we're 1483 00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:51,380 going back here we come all right gang 1484 00:59:01,030 --> 00:59:00,410 not everybody else it yeah we're ready 1485 00:59:08,180 --> 00:59:01,040 yep 1486 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:08,190 Juan Juan yes don't in fact now listen 1487 00:59:15,130 --> 00:59:10,410 we're going for 55 minutes here okay 1488 00:59:19,580 --> 00:59:15,140 okay all right guys in five four three 1489 00:59:22,580 --> 00:59:19,590 two all right welcome back this is 1490 00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:22,590 Martin Willis with podcast UFO on kgr a 1491 00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:23,369 radio 1492 00:59:28,910 --> 00:59:26,700 I'm here with Mack Maloney Juan Juan and 1493 00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:28,920 Cobra hey Marvin 1494 00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:30,630 Thank You Marv to be here that's thank 1495 00:59:34,070 --> 00:59:31,920 you so much having fun so far 1496 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:34,080 if I could put a quick shout out to the 1497 00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:36,210 greatest audience on the planet that's 1498 00:59:44,180 --> 00:59:37,680 all I need to say what the audience of 1499 00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:44,190 your show Wow nice that's very that's 1500 00:59:50,210 --> 00:59:47,310 very good does that work do you get 1501 00:59:51,980 --> 00:59:50,220 night I think so I mean I don't know why 1502 00:59:54,050 --> 00:59:51,990 those people are there I don't know why 1503 00:59:56,270 --> 00:59:54,060 those nice people listen to me every 1504 00:59:58,010 --> 00:59:56,280 week but they they show up and they 1505 00:59:59,540 --> 00:59:58,020 write me nice emails and well they 1506 01:00:01,760 --> 00:59:59,550 should really I got to tell you 1507 01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:01,770 are they still asking for me Cobra I'm 1508 01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:03,359 sure they yeah they must be sure they 1509 01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:05,700 are one way absolutely I got to check my 1510 01:00:09,410 --> 01:00:07,680 booking agent to see if I have some time 1511 01:00:11,450 --> 01:00:09,420 available thank you so much for 1512 01:00:12,980 --> 01:00:11,460 considering great to me again with your 1513 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:12,990 appearance absolutely we love to have 1514 01:00:15,500 --> 01:00:13,770 you when was that 1515 01:00:17,390 --> 01:00:15,510 then why wasn't I told of this when did 1516 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:17,400 you appear as she knew but I have talked 1517 01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:19,650 about it you hadn't you were recently or 1518 01:00:27,230 --> 01:00:25,200 a year and a half ago he was on your 1519 01:00:28,940 --> 01:00:27,240 show I'm sure we told you maybe we 1520 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:28,950 between breaths of fresh you told me do 1521 01:00:34,849 --> 01:00:33,450 you think no don't you think that if you 1522 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:34,859 told me I would have just marked the 1523 01:00:39,380 --> 01:00:36,690 date and not done anything 1524 01:00:41,930 --> 01:00:39,390 well but listen to what I would expect 1525 01:00:44,420 --> 01:00:41,940 so it's in the archives you can tell me 1526 01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:44,430 it's okay something came and we made a 1527 01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:46,440 big deal I know that one Wallace - the 1528 01:00:50,270 --> 01:00:47,820 night that you were on the show when you 1529 01:00:52,130 --> 01:00:50,280 came on right you re just hurt it hurts 1530 01:00:53,420 --> 01:00:52,140 in the back you know that cold I'm not 1531 01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:53,430 the one that's calling you in second on 1532 01:01:00,170 --> 01:00:58,050 the show I make sure every show that a 1533 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:00,180 to brutaiiy I get it ok great ok 1534 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:00,930 whatever 1535 01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:03,450 alright so hey we coming up on stiletto 1536 01:01:08,510 --> 01:01:05,670 Steve there no that would be obviously I 1537 01:01:09,020 --> 01:01:08,520 would be so wet oh he thought we were 1538 01:01:10,490 --> 01:01:09,030 insulting 1539 01:01:14,300 --> 01:01:10,500 do what at home yeah let's put them on 1540 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:14,310 yes is he on well let's see no I told me 1541 01:01:18,170 --> 01:01:16,050 come back in and out of there who do I 1542 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:18,180 hear like my hair is that the ghost is 1543 01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:20,370 that a bob is laughing yeah no I believe 1544 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:23,400 it's a Salt Lake City spirit oh okay all 1545 01:01:25,220 --> 01:01:23,610 right 1546 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:25,230 every now and then you can't control it 1547 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:27,570 it just goes to that place that makes 1548 01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:31,170 him jolly you always spit up your water 1549 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:33,510 Martin I'm glad they saw that on TV that 1550 01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:35,010 was very good control you pulled about 1551 01:01:39,110 --> 01:01:37,470 six G's and brought it right back that 1552 01:01:41,660 --> 01:01:39,120 was pretty damn good alright let's talk 1553 01:01:45,110 --> 01:01:41,670 about cheese yes well so one of the 1554 01:01:55,010 --> 01:01:45,120 g-spot g-string oh boy we're on this is 1555 01:01:58,070 --> 01:01:55,020 a kids show I'm sitting too much with 1556 01:01:59,780 --> 01:01:58,080 those goats that's great right I have a 1557 01:02:02,030 --> 01:01:59,790 new baby goat willow kind of looks a 1558 01:02:03,770 --> 01:02:02,040 little oh that was you see that yeah and 1559 01:02:04,940 --> 01:02:03,780 I'm the one that's going bad places and 1560 01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:04,950 then you throw something like that 1561 01:02:10,970 --> 01:02:08,430 thanks anyway 1562 01:02:13,370 --> 01:02:10,980 one of the things that Lou Elizondo did 1563 01:02:15,620 --> 01:02:13,380 talk about mmm was the characteristics 1564 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:15,630 of what they're seeing out there and one 1565 01:02:22,550 --> 01:02:18,810 of them was you know can can a human 1566 01:02:24,770 --> 01:02:22,560 survive these the suppose a G what is it 1567 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:24,780 called g-force g-force can they actually 1568 01:02:29,660 --> 01:02:28,050 survive the g-force with the right angle 1569 01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:29,670 turns at the you know certain speeds in 1570 01:02:34,580 --> 01:02:32,310 like that you know what do you think if 1571 01:02:37,250 --> 01:02:34,590 you just had to being a pilot yourself 1572 01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:37,260 what do you think that how could 1573 01:02:40,850 --> 01:02:38,640 something survive that if there was 1574 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:40,860 actually a living being um have you ever 1575 01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:46,650 thought of that yet I think that the you 1576 01:02:51,110 --> 01:02:48,510 have an ability that if you can connect 1577 01:02:53,530 --> 01:02:51,120 tobe brain wise I'm sorry I have to 1578 01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:53,540 introduce that Steve has joined the oh 1579 01:02:58,730 --> 01:02:56,400 wait Steve has joined the yeah bruh yes 1580 01:03:00,290 --> 01:02:58,740 which of you there right I'm here okay 1581 01:03:02,690 --> 01:03:00,300 evening sir we were just talking about 1582 01:03:04,220 --> 01:03:02,700 g-force and I'd like your your take on 1583 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:04,230 this switch at the end of it but I 1584 01:03:08,660 --> 01:03:06,570 believe that if you are able to keep the 1585 01:03:10,490 --> 01:03:08,670 brain intact where the brain is 1586 01:03:11,900 --> 01:03:10,500 functioning everything else can go to 1587 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:11,910 hell everything else base go to hell 1588 01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:13,650 because if you can control like pain if 1589 01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:16,710 you can control sensory input and there 1590 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:18,720 has been some work done on this and this 1591 01:03:22,670 --> 01:03:21,330 is where I think you will find that Pope 1592 01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:22,680 he's put on hold 1593 01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:24,960 he has no sound what we have no sound 1594 01:03:29,390 --> 01:03:27,960 going over K GRA we have no sound you 1595 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:29,400 didn't join the call you didn't join the 1596 01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:31,890 call right a knock Steve off please 1597 01:03:40,010 --> 01:03:36,720 talk him off alright alright we're back 1598 01:03:43,070 --> 01:03:40,020 on k gr a radio sorry about that 1599 01:03:45,350 --> 01:03:43,080 so mm that's not good I know how to do 1600 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:45,360 that oh yeah okay but I would have to 1601 01:03:48,380 --> 01:03:46,410 come over there and do that 1602 01:03:50,330 --> 01:03:48,390 and okay so why don't you go ahead and 1603 01:03:51,890 --> 01:03:50,340 just go ahead and talk alright so what 1604 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:51,900 we were talking about is could you so 1605 01:03:56,270 --> 01:03:54,090 how do we justify the g-force and if 1606 01:03:57,860 --> 01:03:56,280 there's a way to manipulate the inputs 1607 01:03:59,330 --> 01:03:57,870 that are going into the brain isolate 1608 01:04:02,210 --> 01:03:59,340 out things that are happening to a body 1609 01:04:04,070 --> 01:04:02,220 I think that that's easy relatively and 1610 01:04:05,420 --> 01:04:04,080 I think that technology is at hand right 1611 01:04:07,070 --> 01:04:05,430 now honey you could actually make that 1612 01:04:08,990 --> 01:04:07,080 happen for me I say question okay so 1613 01:04:11,660 --> 01:04:09,000 what what there's an f-22 what's that 1614 01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:11,670 pull like seven eight G's that airplane 1615 01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:14,400 I believe is about a seven to eight 1616 01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:16,920 maybe our 9g airplane f-16 is nine GS 1617 01:04:22,580 --> 01:04:19,680 but what happens with those aircraft is 1618 01:04:25,490 --> 01:04:22,590 the computer reads what the given weight 1619 01:04:27,350 --> 01:04:25,500 is Ryan will let you go to the limit I 1620 01:04:29,810 --> 01:04:27,360 mean it calculates what the limit is so 1621 01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:29,820 like a fully loaded f-16 with all its 1622 01:04:36,170 --> 01:04:32,400 stores or an f-18 with all its doors on 1623 01:04:38,330 --> 01:04:36,180 there it won't let it exceed the G limit 1624 01:04:40,070 --> 01:04:38,340 for that condition at that moment right 1625 01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:40,080 okay all right but what these aircraft 1626 01:04:44,330 --> 01:04:42,000 will do is that when you command it and 1627 01:04:45,740 --> 01:04:44,340 demand it it will fly right to that 1628 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:45,750 limit and stay there all day long on 1629 01:04:50,060 --> 01:04:47,130 that so let me ask you though when 1630 01:04:51,380 --> 01:04:50,070 Nippon these G's okay I mean basically 1631 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:51,390 we should explain to people is when you 1632 01:04:55,580 --> 01:04:54,210 going so fast that you know it literally 1633 01:04:57,260 --> 01:04:55,590 pins you again well you don't actually 1634 01:04:59,390 --> 01:04:57,270 have to be going that fast it's just 1635 01:05:01,040 --> 01:04:59,400 that you have sufficient power that you 1636 01:05:03,710 --> 01:05:01,050 are pulling against the pull of gravity 1637 01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:03,720 okay that causes your weight to feel 1638 01:05:07,460 --> 01:05:05,670 like so if you're in it if you're in any 1639 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:07,470 airplane like the airplane you were 1640 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:08,610 making fun of the little propeller 1641 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:10,530 airplane you were making fun of if you 1642 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:12,450 go to a sixty degree angle on a bank and 1643 01:05:16,310 --> 01:05:13,890 keep it at level flight you'll be at two 1644 01:05:19,940 --> 01:05:16,320 g's you'll be twice the weight okay you 1645 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:19,950 reel yourself at okay so but what I've 1646 01:05:22,940 --> 01:05:21,330 always wondered is you know when these 1647 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:22,950 planes are making these maneuvers and 1648 01:05:26,060 --> 01:05:24,690 causing these G's that doesn't have 1649 01:05:27,830 --> 01:05:26,070 anything to do this is a real nerd 1650 01:05:30,290 --> 01:05:27,840 question has nothing do it to like the 1651 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:30,300 electric transmission hydraulics 1652 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:32,010 anything like that that doesn't it 1653 01:05:34,850 --> 01:05:33,210 doesn't affect things like that 1654 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:34,860 generally does not I mean there are 1655 01:05:37,970 --> 01:05:36,210 certain what one of the things 1656 01:05:39,740 --> 01:05:37,980 does happen is if you physically 1657 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:39,750 increase the weight of the airplane so 1658 01:05:45,230 --> 01:05:41,250 you will physically slow the airplane 1659 01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:45,240 down so often in maneuvers like that in 1660 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:46,500 an emergency 1661 01:05:51,140 --> 01:05:49,410 they'll pilots are taught to unload the 1662 01:05:53,089 --> 01:05:51,150 aircraft which means you will push it to 1663 01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:53,099 go to a negative or zero g kind of 1664 01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:54,900 condition it is so that when you add 1665 01:05:59,030 --> 01:05:57,839 full power the engines feel like they're 1666 01:06:01,490 --> 01:05:59,040 pushing something that doesn't weigh 1667 01:06:03,170 --> 01:06:01,500 anything or weigh 0 and you can maximum 1668 01:06:05,089 --> 01:06:03,180 acceleration and push then everything 1669 01:06:05,660 --> 01:06:05,099 will come back we're gravity will catch 1670 01:06:08,780 --> 01:06:05,670 up with it 1671 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:08,790 right I know in the f-22 it's not in 1672 01:06:13,609 --> 01:06:10,290 other fighter planes they have a thing 1673 01:06:15,290 --> 01:06:13,619 called a Bob you know Bob goes b.o.b and 1674 01:06:17,660 --> 01:06:15,300 it's the blackout button right basically 1675 01:06:18,890 --> 01:06:17,670 what happens if the pilot feels because 1676 01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:18,900 you're doing this all the time in the 1677 01:06:21,950 --> 01:06:20,160 dogfight it's not just a one-time 1678 01:06:23,570 --> 01:06:21,960 occurrence if they feel like they're 1679 01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:23,580 gonna black out they push the button and 1680 01:06:27,950 --> 01:06:25,920 the airplane takes over right and go all 1681 01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:27,960 the way to landing finishing the dog 1682 01:06:31,730 --> 01:06:29,310 thing landing back home 1683 01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:31,740 that's if he goes unconscious right and 1684 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:33,630 that's designed and is now there's a 1685 01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:35,010 couple other sensors that they've worked 1686 01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:36,510 with it actually fit as part of the 1687 01:06:40,609 --> 01:06:38,609 oxygen mask and it reads how the pilot 1688 01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:40,619 is holding themselves in position and 1689 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:42,089 will take over from that if they don't 1690 01:06:47,570 --> 01:06:45,210 get to the button on that so in the in 1691 01:06:50,420 --> 01:06:47,580 peacetime that would work very well in 1692 01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:50,430 wartime in a combat situation right well 1693 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:52,380 because once the it takes and out there 1694 01:06:58,280 --> 01:06:55,530 are the capabilities to add in and and I 1695 01:07:00,380 --> 01:06:58,290 have no this is conjecture on my part 1696 01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:00,390 now I have no I have no privileged 1697 01:07:04,609 --> 01:07:03,119 knowledge of this happening but I am 1698 01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:04,619 sure that these aircraft are fully 1699 01:07:08,839 --> 01:07:06,510 capable of fighting and functioning 1700 01:07:11,420 --> 01:07:08,849 quite a bit and you're probably a mess 1701 01:07:14,660 --> 01:07:11,430 if you're sitting inside as a passenger 1702 01:07:16,730 --> 01:07:14,670 at that point why it's going on so that 1703 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:16,740 that's I'm sure that that capability is 1704 01:07:20,420 --> 01:07:18,570 there most aircraft I think are being 1705 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:20,430 built as an optionally piloted 1706 01:07:25,460 --> 01:07:23,250 capability which allows I mean that's 1707 01:07:27,980 --> 01:07:25,470 definitely coming it's basically as here 1708 01:07:29,690 --> 01:07:27,990 Mandy you know one manned airplane it'll 1709 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:29,700 be like five is a buddies with them the 1710 01:07:33,410 --> 01:07:31,770 little white airplane that I fly by your 1711 01:07:34,849 --> 01:07:33,420 place with can be controlled from the 1712 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:34,859 ground here's the proper gear is there 1713 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:37,770 that's pretty wild you know not to UM 1714 01:07:41,420 --> 01:07:39,930 you know expand that much on the topic 1715 01:07:44,060 --> 01:07:41,430 but just recently I saw on the news that 1716 01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:44,070 the missing flight you know from 1717 01:07:49,530 --> 01:07:47,200 Indonesia right mh370 whatever the heck 1718 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:49,540 they've actually closed the book on that 1719 01:07:55,770 --> 01:07:52,210 correct and they said that they could 1720 01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:55,780 not discount a third party interfering 1721 01:07:58,829 --> 01:07:57,280 with the flight and when that happened 1722 01:08:00,660 --> 01:07:58,839 man we were talking about it you know 1723 01:08:02,970 --> 01:08:00,670 right away we were saying hey they hack 1724 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:02,980 into computers they hack into cars they 1725 01:08:06,839 --> 01:08:05,170 hack into power stations what would 1726 01:08:09,150 --> 01:08:06,849 prevent someone from hacking into the 1727 01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:09,160 controls of that airplane taking them 1728 01:08:12,329 --> 01:08:10,960 over and flying them into the Indian 1729 01:08:13,970 --> 01:08:12,339 Ocean I mean it's really the only thing 1730 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:13,980 that makes sense in a way 1731 01:08:18,749 --> 01:08:17,650 no yes Coco I I completely agree that 1732 01:08:21,180 --> 01:08:18,759 that's a possibility 1733 01:08:25,229 --> 01:08:21,190 I stole hold that that aircraft was shot 1734 01:08:27,059 --> 01:08:25,239 down shot down young by who say it say 1735 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:27,069 enough tell us what you know I don't 1736 01:08:30,809 --> 01:08:29,290 know we'll take a guess I know who 1737 01:08:32,820 --> 01:08:30,819 you're gonna say I'm saying the Chinese 1738 01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:32,830 I'm not gonna has it any guess I'm going 1739 01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:36,000 to say that there's a lot of 1740 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:38,830 circumstantial evidence that was put out 1741 01:08:43,740 --> 01:08:41,170 in many places that show that that 1742 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:43,750 aircraft had a threat they had someone 1743 01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:45,370 didn't they have a bunch of like Chinese 1744 01:08:49,940 --> 01:08:47,049 scientists or something there's a lot of 1745 01:08:52,110 --> 01:08:49,950 crazy things that went on with that and 1746 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:52,120 there's very strong indications to the 1747 01:08:57,150 --> 01:08:53,890 way I read it that it was had a good 1748 01:09:00,110 --> 01:08:57,160 chance of being a terrorist use of the 1749 01:09:03,180 --> 01:09:00,120 aircraft again okay and I think that 1750 01:09:04,890 --> 01:09:03,190 when it became or posed a threat and 1751 01:09:08,039 --> 01:09:04,900 there may have been some advanced 1752 01:09:09,660 --> 01:09:08,049 knowledge okay all right I mean so when 1753 01:09:11,519 --> 01:09:09,670 people talk about how great it's gonna 1754 01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:11,529 be with no pilots on the airplane and 1755 01:09:16,260 --> 01:09:13,839 flying around with taxes and all that 1756 01:09:18,420 --> 01:09:16,270 yet you won't see me doing it so a 1757 01:09:20,670 --> 01:09:18,430 mountain is back in his station now 1758 01:09:24,420 --> 01:09:20,680 what's going on there mom well um you're 1759 01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:24,430 so up yes definitely Bob no your Skype 1760 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:26,739 is not set up to actually join a call so 1761 01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:28,330 is actually putting the radio station on 1762 01:09:32,010 --> 01:09:30,910 hold oh wow okay quite a while and then 1763 01:09:33,749 --> 01:09:32,020 what happened 1764 01:09:35,490 --> 01:09:33,759 we can't join can't talk the switching 1765 01:09:37,380 --> 01:09:35,500 we can't we can't have it he will it 1766 01:09:40,410 --> 01:09:37,390 will not show a joint call I cannot join 1767 01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:40,420 holy cow so we can at all we can have 1768 01:09:44,579 --> 01:09:41,710 them on speakerphone rid of the week 1769 01:09:46,260 --> 01:09:44,589 yeah I'm on speakerphone yeah it's not 1770 01:09:47,849 --> 01:09:46,270 so good well that means that we can't 1771 01:09:49,860 --> 01:09:47,859 have Emily join us then either a 1772 01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:49,870 speakerphone if you want that's all no 1773 01:09:54,540 --> 01:09:51,190 what it means is that you're gonna have 1774 01:09:56,729 --> 01:09:54,550 to read the ten questions to one no no I 1775 01:09:59,160 --> 01:09:56,739 my classes night oh and the thing is 1776 01:10:04,229 --> 01:09:59,170 we're we're the first one we used to is 1777 01:10:07,799 --> 01:10:04,239 not how should I put a timely oh not you 1778 01:10:09,689 --> 01:10:07,809 I mean I can't one one is the you know I 1779 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:09,699 know I could see the one one reacts a 1780 01:10:14,459 --> 01:10:11,290 certain weight as Emily is not going to 1781 01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:14,469 be on Emily's not Martin is there can I 1782 01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:16,860 get to kind of a lowdown of how I should 1783 01:10:22,290 --> 01:10:19,480 sure yeah yeah yeah we should do 1784 01:10:24,089 --> 01:10:22,300 methodically read the questions honestly 1785 01:10:25,830 --> 01:10:24,099 will they'd roll them into his head 1786 01:10:27,390 --> 01:10:25,840 alright let's let's go let's let's get 1787 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:27,400 this over but I'm gonna have to pass you 1788 01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:28,770 some documents okay 1789 01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:32,710 live one act like you're gonna me with a 1790 01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:35,230 glance I am excited yeah keep away from 1791 01:10:43,770 --> 01:10:36,820 Mac he doesn't want it he doesn't wanna 1792 01:10:45,629 --> 01:10:43,780 be seen he pleased he does I guess if 1793 01:10:50,370 --> 01:10:45,639 you can read my scrawl I'm a product of 1794 01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:50,380 the school systems can you read it at 1795 01:10:55,379 --> 01:10:53,199 all Martin number ten we would start 1796 01:10:57,060 --> 01:10:55,389 with ten or you start with ten yep we're 1797 01:10:58,290 --> 01:10:57,070 doing this now alright yeah well we're 1798 01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:58,300 gonna have to set it up you have it if 1799 01:11:05,189 --> 01:10:59,679 we're doing that we're doing it yes all 1800 01:11:07,370 --> 01:11:05,199 right all right all right so this is a 1801 01:11:10,649 --> 01:11:07,380 segment done on your show man right 1802 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:10,659 it has to be seven minutes long and by 1803 01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:12,250 you know for technical reasons that they 1804 01:11:15,959 --> 01:11:14,440 like to one begin into now we have to do 1805 01:11:17,609 --> 01:11:15,969 the show because sometimes this segment 1806 01:11:19,859 --> 01:11:17,619 does not appear in all the shows that we 1807 01:11:22,410 --> 01:11:19,869 distribute to our many networks okay 1808 01:11:24,810 --> 01:11:22,420 okay now these questions come from your 1809 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:24,820 listeners as some of them do and then 1810 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:26,290 some of them don't 1811 01:11:32,669 --> 01:11:29,770 internet right yeah you know internet 1812 01:11:34,770 --> 01:11:32,679 searches I get the odd web stuff dark 1813 01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:34,780 web we need that right okay one more yes 1814 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:36,820 all right all right so anyway so what we 1815 01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:38,650 do is we say yeah one one you're ready 1816 01:11:42,569 --> 01:11:40,150 right so the ten questions you're right 1817 01:11:45,979 --> 01:11:42,579 right okay all right so we have to say 1818 01:11:50,609 --> 01:11:45,989 Jeff please cue the music right now and 1819 01:11:55,379 --> 01:11:50,619 montón the first question all right one 1820 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:55,389 one have you ever been mistaken for a 1821 01:11:59,879 --> 01:11:56,170 movie star 1822 01:12:02,760 --> 01:11:59,889 yes I have I have been mistaken for the 1823 01:12:07,149 --> 01:12:02,770 great character on the Victoria 1824 01:12:10,060 --> 01:12:07,159 masterpiece theater program the 1825 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:10,070 frança telly character Frank Frankie 1826 01:12:19,419 --> 01:12:12,650 telly is the pastry chef on that show 1827 01:12:22,810 --> 01:12:19,429 okay it was pastry-cook earlier help you 1828 01:12:25,029 --> 01:12:22,820 upgrade the chef next question he's a 1829 01:12:25,449 --> 01:12:25,039 master with tarts yeah I'm sure I bet 1830 01:12:26,770 --> 01:12:25,459 you are 1831 01:12:30,189 --> 01:12:26,780 alright so I have to keep this rolling 1832 01:12:33,939 --> 01:12:30,199 yes I can ramble on too much yeah I was 1833 01:12:37,739 --> 01:12:33,949 hoping that pirate Martin how did you 1834 01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:37,749 first learn about the birds and the bees 1835 01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:40,159 I'm sorry but I don't recall that I 1836 01:12:44,850 --> 01:12:41,840 think we were just experimenting out in 1837 01:12:47,589 --> 01:12:44,860 the street I'll see you know once 1838 01:12:49,390 --> 01:12:47,599 Cambridge Cambridge doing a lot of 1839 01:12:52,929 --> 01:12:49,400 experimentation on the weekends 1840 01:12:55,949 --> 01:12:52,939 Charlestown say how old you were a 1841 01:13:01,839 --> 01:12:55,959 couple of three now about five years old 1842 01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:01,849 started late yeah now you know see 1843 01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:09,679 around goats - what's your problem with 1844 01:13:16,419 --> 01:13:14,719 mr. regino mr. Rogers oh my god sorry 1845 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:16,429 function sorry about your writing I 1846 01:13:20,890 --> 01:13:18,050 don't have a problem with mr. Rogers I'd 1847 01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:20,900 left mr. Rogers all right hi neighbor 1848 01:13:24,580 --> 01:13:22,729 and my next question please alright the 1849 01:13:25,989 --> 01:13:24,590 sweaters - cardigan sir 1850 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:25,999 next what next question have you ever 1851 01:13:35,979 --> 01:13:34,130 eaten a worm don't go don't go there no 1852 01:13:38,290 --> 01:13:35,989 and I haven't done tequila shots either 1853 01:13:45,359 --> 01:13:38,300 so I thought they'd but for sure there 1854 01:13:48,909 --> 01:13:45,369 was a tequila story yeah okay Mac 1855 01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:48,919 Victoria's Secret on no Victoria Secret 1856 01:13:54,009 --> 01:13:52,159 off Frederick's of Hollywood Tori secret 1857 01:13:56,049 --> 01:13:54,019 or Frederick's of Hollywood I'm a big 1858 01:13:57,159 --> 01:13:56,059 Victoria's Secret guy from way back all 1859 01:13:59,949 --> 01:13:57,169 right classy 1860 01:14:04,199 --> 01:13:59,959 verdicts of Hollywood is - not classy 1861 01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,209 yeah you had a Fredrik stage though I've 1862 01:14:14,279 --> 01:14:06,320 next question we talked about 1863 01:14:20,379 --> 01:14:14,289 undergarments and toys number five work 1864 01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:20,389 when were the when we're in the Navy did 1865 01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:20,960 you 1866 01:14:31,330 --> 01:14:29,360 with sleep on duty never yeah sure I 1867 01:14:32,979 --> 01:14:31,340 never fell asleep on duty I loved being 1868 01:14:34,150 --> 01:14:32,989 on duty especially midnight 1869 01:14:36,670 --> 01:14:34,160 who's the one that normally does this 1870 01:14:39,550 --> 01:14:36,680 can she read your yeah yeah no we yes 1871 01:14:43,420 --> 01:14:39,560 barely you type yes they do Wow 1872 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:43,430 okay when is the last time you marched 1873 01:14:50,620 --> 01:14:47,930 in the Puerto Rican Day Parade we got 1874 01:14:53,410 --> 01:14:50,630 three minutes so take your time was that 1875 01:14:54,970 --> 01:14:53,420 one only if I was confused to being 1876 01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,980 Puerto Rican see here's the thing is a 1877 01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:56,480 lot of people and he gets bad that's 1878 01:15:01,330 --> 01:14:57,890 because what people think his name is 1879 01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:01,340 spelled wo and wo in and I have to keep 1880 01:15:07,660 --> 01:15:02,960 correcting my fans 1881 01:15:08,910 --> 01:15:07,670 it's one one j ue x Tim I'm Italian and 1882 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:08,920 I'm Filipino 1883 01:15:13,570 --> 01:15:11,210 yeah thanks question please Martin okay 1884 01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:13,580 if the earth was in vain I have to read 1885 01:15:19,620 --> 01:15:16,880 like five minutes ahead here if the 1886 01:15:23,890 --> 01:15:19,630 earth was invaded by aliens 1887 01:15:25,870 --> 01:15:23,900 whose side would you be on I'd be on the 1888 01:15:27,340 --> 01:15:25,880 alien side let's see I know it can you 1889 01:15:29,890 --> 01:15:27,350 explain a little bit I'm right they 1890 01:15:32,500 --> 01:15:29,900 always use a helping hand and they needs 1891 01:15:35,500 --> 01:15:32,510 a one one I read a collaborator next 1892 01:15:36,940 --> 01:15:35,510 question criminality makeover I didn't 1893 01:15:38,380 --> 01:15:36,950 want to say clearly had one question 1894 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:38,390 left how much time you're down at 1895 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:39,770 question two more minutes left 1896 01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:42,410 oh we go we have two minutes I know I 1897 01:15:48,190 --> 01:15:45,920 mean I just come back to his 1898 01:15:50,740 --> 01:15:48,200 collaboration issues in a second you got 1899 01:15:53,770 --> 01:15:50,750 to get the next question going he may 1900 01:15:54,459 --> 01:15:53,780 not be here to read the question I know 1901 01:15:55,930 --> 01:15:54,469 it from memory 1902 01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:55,940 alright I'm gonna I'm gonna read it I'm 1903 01:16:01,750 --> 01:15:57,770 gonna read how it looks well that you're 1904 01:16:05,740 --> 01:16:01,760 on a life raft with Nancy Wilson of 1905 01:16:09,670 --> 01:16:05,750 heart okay alright of heart oh yeah tbh 1906 01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:09,680 whatever that is TV and Tom Brady Tom 1907 01:16:17,330 --> 01:16:12,080 Brady oh I'm supposed to know TVs Tom 1908 01:16:21,860 --> 01:16:19,880 again no matter what one with them has 1909 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:21,870 to one of them has to go 1910 01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:25,890 who goes not you not you yeah what do 1911 01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:27,690 you mean not be wrong Brady on Nancy 1912 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:29,520 Wilson who's gonna go over the side I'm 1913 01:16:33,410 --> 01:16:30,930 sorry I have to swim for it 1914 01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:33,420 who if it's shock infested waters I'm 1915 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:35,490 going over the side no no no it can't be 1916 01:16:39,980 --> 01:16:38,010 you has to be for the bit to be one of 1917 01:16:44,030 --> 01:16:39,990 them I know I saw that picture of mr. 1918 01:16:45,380 --> 01:16:44,040 Brady with his wife's bathing suit he 1919 01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:45,390 could probably swim that can't be me 1920 01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:48,000 it's gonna be Tom Brady yeah you and the 1921 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:52,080 NT yeah people don't realize he had a 1922 01:16:57,620 --> 01:16:54,690 chance to go on tour with hot years ago 1923 01:16:59,150 --> 01:16:57,630 okay Nancy Wilson who's the blonde I had 1924 01:17:01,850 --> 01:16:59,160 a little bit of an eye contact a little 1925 01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:01,860 kumbaya and then they asked him to 1926 01:17:05,690 --> 01:17:03,840 another 60 and he had to turn him down I 1927 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:05,700 had to turn down six months on the road 1928 01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:09,690 with Nancy Wilson you show me that time 1929 01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:12,480 is running out - that's my cue to cue 1930 01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:15,120 you all right time is running out but 1931 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:17,760 ten questions for one one tanks yes one 1932 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:24,810 lime ten ridiculous questions for except 1933 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:28,530 the first one making a youtube star man 1934 01:17:33,530 --> 01:17:31,410 oh man alright next thing will be is the 1935 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:33,540 printing of his name on your book wasn't 1936 01:17:38,420 --> 01:17:34,050 big enough 1937 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:38,430 all right yeah - isn't Bingham the font 1938 01:17:46,730 --> 01:17:45,570 styling yes yes check that triple that 1939 01:17:51,140 --> 01:17:46,740 is that what you really want 1940 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:51,150 yeah one - one - one yeah yeah how about 1941 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:51,570 that 1942 01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:55,650 my moniker yeah I'm gonna get a tattoo 1943 01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:58,650 of it pretty soon so Mac when is that 1944 01:18:02,420 --> 01:18:00,480 book actually coming out it's in 1945 01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:02,430 pre-order now as they say on the amazon 1946 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:04,470 and barnesandnoble.com it's coming out 1947 01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:07,650 October 10th all right Mac Mountain 1948 01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:10,080 universe uh-huh and if you want one to 1949 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:11,520 read it you can have two books on tape 1950 01:18:16,430 --> 01:18:14,090 so you say you won't even do that yeah 1951 01:18:18,260 --> 01:18:16,440 yeah he says he's kind of like the only 1952 01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:18,270 way we get one wanted to read this cover 1953 01:18:22,190 --> 01:18:20,400 to cover is if we use him to be the 1954 01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:22,200 books on tape there you go yeah yeah 1955 01:18:25,069 --> 01:18:24,480 then I guarantee that he'll read the 1956 01:18:27,069 --> 01:18:25,079 book 1957 01:18:29,299 --> 01:18:27,079 I'm gonna read it to my wife you would 1958 01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:29,309 yeah bigger to put her to sleep for 1959 01:18:33,310 --> 01:18:30,510 something I was sitting in front of my 1960 01:18:36,379 --> 01:18:33,320 laptop reading the the pre-release 1961 01:18:39,319 --> 01:18:36,389 editors copy it's pretty fascinating 1962 01:18:41,599 --> 01:18:39,329 good yeah is that a plan I didn't get 1963 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:41,609 that copy yeah you didn't know no I 1964 01:18:45,889 --> 01:18:43,050 didn't because I'm not in the circle and 1965 01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:45,899 even oh okay Wow who said you're not in 1966 01:18:50,299 --> 01:18:48,719 the circle because I used to get advance 1967 01:18:53,029 --> 01:18:50,309 copies because I would get raised so I 1968 01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:53,039 could write good reviews so he was in 1969 01:19:01,609 --> 01:18:59,010 the inner circle and now yeah I'm a 1970 01:19:03,109 --> 01:19:01,619 circle unto myself can you kind of see 1971 01:19:05,209 --> 01:19:03,119 Madden when I go through you know not 1972 01:19:07,849 --> 01:19:05,219 not that it's not fun but this is what 1973 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:07,859 happens if you ashamed to more trust in 1974 01:19:14,540 --> 01:19:10,530 other classes Wow 1975 01:19:17,179 --> 01:19:14,550 so let's let's let's talk about my show 1976 01:19:19,819 --> 01:19:17,189 touches on UFOs now and then it does oh 1977 01:19:21,859 --> 01:19:19,829 yeah yep so I'm gonna start with masters 1978 01:19:25,459 --> 01:19:21,869 - Mack Maloney yeah what is your 1979 01:19:27,379 --> 01:19:25,469 favorite case and why I got a bunch of 1980 01:19:30,079 --> 01:19:27,389 the the best one to me is called the 1981 01:19:32,449 --> 01:19:30,089 gander case okay and now the mid-50s I 1982 01:19:34,729 --> 01:19:32,459 think is 1956 this was I documented by 1983 01:19:36,829 --> 01:19:34,739 major Donald Kehoe who wrote a lot of 1984 01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:36,839 really good questions I have 50s you 1985 01:19:42,349 --> 01:19:39,510 know he's a Marine officer and he knew 1986 01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:42,359 people to go talk to and I wrote some 1987 01:19:47,419 --> 01:19:44,729 really good books anyway he documented 1988 01:19:49,819 --> 01:19:47,429 this there was a airplane flying from 1989 01:19:51,109 --> 01:19:49,829 England back to the United States there 1990 01:19:53,179 --> 01:19:51,119 was what people would call super 1991 01:19:55,099 --> 01:19:53,189 constellation back then but there was 1992 01:19:56,989 --> 01:19:55,109 the military version of it they were 1993 01:20:00,349 --> 01:19:56,999 actually transporting pilots and 1994 01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:00,359 aircrews back from Europe you know to go 1995 01:20:05,779 --> 01:20:03,209 home or to be on a holiday or whatever 1996 01:20:08,359 --> 01:20:05,789 on leave so the the plane just happen to 1997 01:20:10,399 --> 01:20:08,369 have like 40 pilots and engineers and 1998 01:20:11,959 --> 01:20:10,409 aircrew in it so they were they were 1999 01:20:13,459 --> 01:20:11,969 about an hour outside of ganda 2000 01:20:16,729 --> 01:20:13,469 Newfoundland where they were gonna well 2001 01:20:17,839 --> 01:20:16,739 land and refuel and they saw lights down 2002 01:20:20,060 --> 01:20:17,849 below them and they thought at first 2003 01:20:21,609 --> 01:20:20,070 that there was a city or you know and 2004 01:20:24,049 --> 01:20:21,619 that they were off course it turns out 2005 01:20:25,159 --> 01:20:24,059 they're from yeah from there around the 2006 01:20:26,839 --> 01:20:25,169 water and then they thought it was some 2007 01:20:29,089 --> 01:20:26,849 kind of gathering of ships or something 2008 01:20:31,099 --> 01:20:29,099 anyway one of them formed the circle 2009 01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:31,109 came up and rode right beside this plane 2010 01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:33,120 and it was almost a mile and 2011 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:35,520 and it was you know maneuvering so on 2012 01:20:38,930 --> 01:20:37,290 and so forth and you have these 40 2013 01:20:40,220 --> 01:20:38,940 aircrew we always say pilots are the 2014 01:20:43,730 --> 01:20:40,230 best you know 2015 01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:43,740 witnesses they saw it it disappeared but 2016 01:20:46,610 --> 01:20:45,450 it rode alongside them for almost a 2017 01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:46,620 minute which is a long time when 2018 01:20:48,650 --> 01:20:47,760 something like this is going on they 2019 01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:48,660 landed Buganda 2020 01:20:53,470 --> 01:20:51,600 they were rum you know right away put 2021 01:20:56,090 --> 01:20:53,480 into rooms by intelligence people 2022 01:20:58,820 --> 01:20:56,100 question went onto they were going to 2023 01:21:01,310 --> 01:20:58,830 pucks atomic rivers I how you say that 2024 01:21:04,340 --> 01:21:01,320 Thanks River Pax River which is looks 2025 01:21:06,380 --> 01:21:04,350 like a groundhog or something that's 2026 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:06,390 Pennsylvania Pawtuxet protected okay 2027 01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:08,010 that's where the Navy does a lot of 2028 01:21:12,620 --> 01:21:11,280 that's what the test pilot stuff that's 2029 01:21:14,630 --> 01:21:12,630 what the plane you know that was the end 2030 01:21:15,980 --> 01:21:14,640 of his destination and in and I'm the 2031 01:21:17,870 --> 01:21:15,990 pilot you know was visited by some 2032 01:21:19,940 --> 01:21:17,880 scientists that he said you know the 2033 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:19,950 government has sent me over he had a big 2034 01:21:24,530 --> 01:21:23,010 behind her and he says tell me what you 2035 01:21:26,180 --> 01:21:24,540 were for you saw and like about the 2036 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:26,190 sixth time you know six pages says 2037 01:21:30,530 --> 01:21:28,890 that's exactly it the guy young gets up 2038 01:21:31,940 --> 01:21:30,540 puts his behind away and walked and that 2039 01:21:34,460 --> 01:21:31,950 was it didn't say anything more about it 2040 01:21:35,900 --> 01:21:34,470 right yeah and the pilot said why would 2041 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:35,910 they have pictures of these things yeah 2042 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:38,010 yeah I've heard that story not that 2043 01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:39,570 particular story but I have heard the 2044 01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:41,910 story about the book there was a guy 2045 01:21:47,570 --> 01:21:46,080 that I had on my show who just 2046 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:47,580 happenstance I was talking to him about 2047 01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:49,650 an something else entirely 2048 01:21:55,370 --> 01:21:53,910 and and the UFO show came up hanging it 2049 01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:55,380 up putting him on my show which was 2050 01:22:00,650 --> 01:21:58,170 always risky you know someone out there 2051 01:22:01,970 --> 01:22:00,660 but he had a very interesting sighting 2052 01:22:05,180 --> 01:22:01,980 when he was nine years old the reason I 2053 01:22:07,820 --> 01:22:05,190 wanted him on and he he wrote a report 2054 01:22:09,470 --> 01:22:07,830 and sent it to the airport and and you 2055 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:09,480 know who showed up at his house RuPaul 2056 01:22:13,370 --> 01:22:11,610 oh really yeah he didn't know who he was 2057 01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,380 until years later the person who ran 2058 01:22:18,740 --> 01:22:15,840 project Bluebook father yes careful so 2059 01:22:20,060 --> 01:22:18,750 he had an album of UFOs yeah and he went 2060 01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:20,070 through it he says can you tell me which 2061 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:21,360 one it looked like and then he showed 2062 01:22:25,220 --> 01:22:22,890 him the film they actually brought in a 2063 01:22:26,930 --> 01:22:25,230 projector gautama film this is a little 2064 01:22:28,820 --> 01:22:26,940 kid nine years ago this just shows you 2065 01:22:30,740 --> 01:22:28,830 you know you hit the story a lot okay 2066 01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:30,750 they all can't be made-up they all can't 2067 01:22:33,950 --> 01:22:32,490 be hoaxes they all can't be people think 2068 01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:33,960 they can cash in on and you know it's 2069 01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:35,280 these things have happened to people 2070 01:22:39,140 --> 01:22:37,440 yeah and if only one of them happened 2071 01:22:41,660 --> 01:22:39,150 then they might all be true if you know 2072 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:41,670 what I mean you know just the fact that 2073 01:22:45,860 --> 01:22:45,330 as we say it a lot on the show I say it 2074 01:22:48,050 --> 01:22:45,870 at least 2075 01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:48,060 anyway I think that the US military 2076 01:22:52,820 --> 01:22:51,360 knows a lot about UFOs but I don't think 2077 01:22:54,260 --> 01:22:52,830 they have any idea where they come from 2078 01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:54,270 mm-hmm I think they have a lot of 2079 01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:56,490 evidence that exists yeah I don't think 2080 01:23:00,110 --> 01:22:58,530 they have a clue okay and I'm gonna 2081 01:23:01,430 --> 01:23:00,120 throw this you and this is like pulling 2082 01:23:05,890 --> 01:23:01,440 the pin out of the hand grenade 2083 01:23:09,290 --> 01:23:05,900 okay don't you think that the current 2084 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:09,300 resident of the White House don't you 2085 01:23:14,270 --> 01:23:12,050 think if there was something you know 2086 01:23:16,190 --> 01:23:14,280 secret or whatever that he could get his 2087 01:23:18,350 --> 01:23:16,200 access to it that he's been tweeting 2088 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:18,360 about the frickin first day he between 2089 01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:20,250 you about it you know hear if there's 2090 01:23:25,460 --> 01:23:23,040 ever a president who's going to be the 2091 01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:25,470 person who releases disclosure because a 2092 01:23:28,730 --> 01:23:26,880 lot of them don't want to do it because 2093 01:23:30,590 --> 01:23:28,740 they they fear basically what their 2094 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:30,600 political reputation you know will look 2095 01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:32,970 like afterwards obviously he doesn't 2096 01:23:37,670 --> 01:23:35,040 care and I think he would be the guy who 2097 01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:37,680 would actually release all the files if 2098 01:23:42,230 --> 01:23:40,560 the files you don't existed well I don't 2099 01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:42,240 think they exist well here's the thing 2100 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:45,030 about that also is it's I don't want to 2101 01:23:48,260 --> 01:23:46,290 say it's need-to-know because when it 2102 01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:48,270 comes to the president he can according 2103 01:23:53,420 --> 01:23:51,120 to a DoD guy that I talked to that had 2104 01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:53,430 the I figured what you call the top 2105 01:23:59,570 --> 01:23:57,110 clearance Momo anyway he said that if 2106 01:24:01,280 --> 01:23:59,580 the president wants to know no matter 2107 01:24:03,140 --> 01:24:01,290 what it is they have to you have to tell 2108 01:24:04,310 --> 01:24:03,150 them you have to tell right okay don't I 2109 01:24:07,220 --> 01:24:04,320 don't you might match the question 2110 01:24:10,190 --> 01:24:07,230 Clinton wanted to know so I don't know 2111 01:24:12,380 --> 01:24:10,200 how far how far you go someone has 2112 01:24:14,690 --> 01:24:12,390 mentioned to that this could also be 2113 01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:14,700 privatized so they wouldn't have to tell 2114 01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:16,560 well yeah we talked about definitely 2115 01:24:19,790 --> 01:24:18,000 compartment eyes this is the poster boy 2116 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:19,800 for private eyes right here sitting here 2117 01:24:22,460 --> 01:24:20,730 in his uniform 2118 01:24:24,740 --> 01:24:22,470 why yeah you don't have any emblems 2119 01:24:27,710 --> 01:24:24,750 onion from there see see he doesn't want 2120 01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:27,720 to get next question police say it's out 2121 01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:30,570 in this the plane the secret man yeah 2122 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:32,280 that's what he's gonna say Wednesday you 2123 01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:34,530 buying this round good night who's 2124 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:36,000 buying this right yeah next question 2125 01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,370 all right so also just to let people 2126 01:24:42,260 --> 01:24:40,560 know I'm sorry we can't take calls we 2127 01:24:45,230 --> 01:24:42,270 just are not able to do that tonight but 2128 01:24:46,850 --> 01:24:45,240 I will try to keep an eye on the message 2129 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:46,860 board if anyone has some questions for 2130 01:24:52,820 --> 01:24:50,010 us so on youtube if you want to if you 2131 01:24:55,940 --> 01:24:52,830 want to type in your questions there so 2132 01:24:59,059 --> 01:24:55,950 what do you think about my favorites or 2133 01:25:02,299 --> 01:24:59,069 the ones that I have a dead tie 2134 01:25:04,609 --> 01:25:02,309 it's going to be the Aztec UFO and the 2135 01:25:07,489 --> 01:25:04,619 Ramses Mac introduced me to the Rameses 2136 01:25:09,139 --> 01:25:07,499 he's had him in his books I've 2137 01:25:11,149 --> 01:25:09,149 interviewed them a number of times 2138 01:25:14,239 --> 01:25:11,159 super folks they've done probably one of 2139 01:25:17,299 --> 01:25:14,249 the most extensive projects research 2140 01:25:19,339 --> 01:25:17,309 that they continue to research it aside 2141 01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:19,349 from being just absolutely lovely people 2142 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:23,129 and great to talk with to me there's 2143 01:25:27,409 --> 01:25:25,530 enough hard evidence there and the fact 2144 01:25:29,209 --> 01:25:27,419 that folks will always toss it back at 2145 01:25:30,559 --> 01:25:29,219 me well it's been disproven don't buy it 2146 01:25:33,559 --> 01:25:30,569 don't buy it for a minute all right I 2147 01:25:35,569 --> 01:25:33,569 want I wanted my dead Tychus are you 2148 01:25:39,589 --> 01:25:35,579 gonna roll in on me and I'm ready 2149 01:25:41,359 --> 01:25:39,599 that's fine as dr. McKie tie and the 2150 01:25:44,419 --> 01:25:41,369 flange lights yeah when another 2151 01:25:46,549 --> 01:25:44,429 fantastic person I just recently made 2152 01:25:50,689 --> 01:25:46,559 her acquaintance she's a very nice woman 2153 01:25:52,609 --> 01:25:50,699 and she did some really in-depth work as 2154 01:25:57,069 --> 01:25:52,619 someone who was a doctor who spent as 2155 01:25:59,929 --> 01:25:57,079 much time as she has researching it I 2156 01:26:03,500 --> 01:25:59,939 don't know what those two instances are 2157 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:03,510 but I really feel that there is this is 2158 01:26:06,889 --> 01:26:05,489 what falls into the realm of this is not 2159 01:26:08,619 --> 01:26:06,899 easily explained it's not a military 2160 01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:08,629 project that there's there's definitely 2161 01:26:12,589 --> 01:26:11,760 Italians there yeah I I I do agree about 2162 01:26:15,020 --> 01:26:12,599 the Phoenix lights 2163 01:26:17,029 --> 01:26:15,030 um I can't I can't wait to hear one 2164 01:26:19,369 --> 01:26:17,039 one's all right we'll get to him just a 2165 01:26:22,129 --> 01:26:19,379 minute but um he was raising his hand 2166 01:26:24,859 --> 01:26:22,139 that's why I'm the Ramseys in that whole 2167 01:26:27,969 --> 01:26:24,869 situation I I have heard from a number 2168 01:26:31,549 --> 01:26:27,979 of people that they think there was some 2169 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:31,559 issues with that case and and so what is 2170 01:26:35,869 --> 01:26:33,449 your what is your argument why do you 2171 01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:35,879 why do you think it's they've done such 2172 01:26:42,139 --> 01:26:39,329 extensive research documenting out all 2173 01:26:43,459 --> 01:26:42,149 the parts going to tell that's nutshell 2174 01:26:46,879 --> 01:26:43,469 of the case for the person that hasn't 2175 01:26:50,989 --> 01:26:46,889 heard of it a large saucer vehicle has a 2176 01:26:53,059 --> 01:26:50,999 crash landing civilians come up to it it 2177 01:26:55,819 --> 01:26:53,069 has a Roswell kind of feel you would 2178 01:26:58,969 --> 01:26:55,829 advise to put to it but there is a 2179 01:27:00,679 --> 01:26:58,979 military response that is not putting 2180 01:27:04,819 --> 01:27:00,689 out public statements of what it is or 2181 01:27:10,939 --> 01:27:04,829 what it isn't and there is a very 2182 01:27:11,939 --> 01:27:10,949 interesting immediate response to this 2183 01:27:15,649 --> 01:27:11,949 crash 2184 01:27:18,359 --> 01:27:15,659 there is a large body of evidence which 2185 01:27:21,089 --> 01:27:18,369 really harkens back to good 2186 01:27:23,819 --> 01:27:21,099 investigative principles where they have 2187 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:23,829 gone and they've spoken to people more 2188 01:27:28,890 --> 01:27:25,570 people have come forward over the years 2189 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:28,900 that have you know last stages their 2190 01:27:34,739 --> 01:27:31,690 lives there is things that they found 2191 01:27:36,569 --> 01:27:34,749 there that look like large equipment 2192 01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:36,579 that had to be brought in for recovery 2193 01:27:42,449 --> 01:27:38,320 there's no reason for it to be out there 2194 01:27:45,060 --> 01:27:42,459 so they make no bold claims being what 2195 01:27:47,279 --> 01:27:45,070 they're reporting of what they seem and 2196 01:27:50,009 --> 01:27:47,289 it started very instantly this is people 2197 01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:50,019 that had no interest writing this in 2198 01:27:56,069 --> 01:27:52,719 particular they just happened to be out 2199 01:27:57,509 --> 01:27:56,079 there he had time to kill he starts 2200 01:27:59,969 --> 01:27:57,519 talking oh yeah you should talk he was 2201 01:28:01,199 --> 01:27:59,979 on her radio well I'm saying is when he 2202 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:01,209 was first where he was walking out there 2203 01:28:08,939 --> 01:28:05,610 for his business selling electronic and 2204 01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:08,949 cable and he was out there on a project 2205 01:28:12,089 --> 01:28:11,110 and that's you know he's got a Friday 2206 01:28:13,410 --> 01:28:12,099 night and he sitting with some people 2207 01:28:14,729 --> 01:28:13,420 and then some locals tell him about the 2208 01:28:17,850 --> 01:28:14,739 story and that's what starts it and then 2209 01:28:19,799 --> 01:28:17,860 he meets his future wife and they've 2210 01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:19,809 continued and they document same thing 2211 01:28:29,009 --> 01:28:24,489 with dr. kita she is someone who takes 2212 01:28:31,169 --> 01:28:29,019 her extensive medical background her and 2213 01:28:36,270 --> 01:28:31,179 her husband both experienced it she has 2214 01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:36,280 a different take and she goes through 2215 01:28:42,449 --> 01:28:39,760 and documents it very carefully she 2216 01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:42,459 takes us a scientific approach where she 2217 01:28:45,689 --> 01:28:44,050 does not sure she says she's not sure 2218 01:28:47,609 --> 01:28:45,699 but she goes and gets the evidence 2219 01:28:50,609 --> 01:28:47,619 that's reason why I like those two cases 2220 01:28:52,979 --> 01:28:50,619 so much because there's nothing really 2221 01:28:54,839 --> 01:28:52,989 being sold here there's no there's no 2222 01:28:58,469 --> 01:28:54,849 hey you've got to believe me or you know 2223 01:29:00,989 --> 01:28:58,479 it it they were in different respects 2224 01:29:03,569 --> 01:29:00,999 life-changing events for these people 2225 01:29:05,310 --> 01:29:03,579 that are involved and in the case of dr. 2226 01:29:07,290 --> 01:29:05,320 kita it's interesting cuz her husband 2227 01:29:09,299 --> 01:29:07,300 didn't have the same reaction she did 2228 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:09,309 but when he looked at what she put out 2229 01:29:13,109 --> 01:29:11,650 he's in total agreement he was there you 2230 01:29:16,109 --> 01:29:13,119 know from the beginning with it so those 2231 01:29:17,279 --> 01:29:16,119 are two that to me don't easily fall 2232 01:29:20,219 --> 01:29:17,289 into the category that can be 2233 01:29:22,620 --> 01:29:20,229 discredited and I'm when you we talk 2234 01:29:24,419 --> 01:29:22,630 about Roswell earlier tonight Roswell 2235 01:29:26,429 --> 01:29:24,429 you know is celebrated as 2236 01:29:28,379 --> 01:29:26,439 as a touch-tone event and I think it has 2237 01:29:29,910 --> 01:29:28,389 a lot less it's sort of like what you 2238 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:29,920 talked about Mac with the the missile 2239 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:32,170 silo missile silo a short distance away 2240 01:29:37,290 --> 01:29:35,050 it sounds like UFO Grand Central Station 2241 01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:37,300 there's all kinds of stuff people say 2242 01:29:41,339 --> 01:29:38,729 I'm not going to do this anymore wanna 2243 01:29:43,770 --> 01:29:41,349 nary a peep and I think that that goes 2244 01:29:46,020 --> 01:29:43,780 back to what I think that is it's a it's 2245 01:29:48,509 --> 01:29:46,030 a false flag it's to get your attention 2246 01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:48,519 driven onto it it's the it's the cover 2247 01:29:54,799 --> 01:29:51,489 and provide cover for other things that 2248 01:29:58,679 --> 01:29:54,809 are going on it's a man-made and 2249 01:30:00,959 --> 01:29:58,689 extraterrestrials to saying is it really 2250 01:30:02,819 --> 01:30:00,969 did happen out in the middle of nowhere 2251 01:30:05,489 --> 01:30:02,829 and if you grew up in now still business 2252 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:05,499 concrete slab that you know witnesses a 2253 01:30:09,929 --> 01:30:07,449 lot of witnesses said the ami had to put 2254 01:30:12,689 --> 01:30:09,939 down to bring in a trailer and a crane 2255 01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:12,699 and the crane wreckage and drive it away 2256 01:30:17,399 --> 01:30:14,639 they great one quick question about that 2257 01:30:20,489 --> 01:30:17,409 wasn't that thing like 35 or 40 feet 2258 01:30:22,859 --> 01:30:20,499 wide what the yeah the cement thing no 2259 01:30:24,419 --> 01:30:22,869 no the craft that they they talk about I 2260 01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:24,429 mean I just wonder how they could 2261 01:30:27,779 --> 01:30:26,110 possibly transport something like that 2262 01:30:29,819 --> 01:30:27,789 unless they put it in pieces I think it 2263 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:29,829 was it was in pieces because people said 2264 01:30:32,489 --> 01:30:31,090 that they looked in the windows and that 2265 01:30:34,469 --> 01:30:32,499 they actually saw you know somebody 2266 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:34,479 being or something yeah yeah you know 2267 01:30:38,609 --> 01:30:36,610 and remembers that the strange thing 2268 01:30:40,679 --> 01:30:38,619 about that story is that they have went 2269 01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:40,689 about the Ramseys is because it happened 2270 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:45,760 in 1947 47 48 that when the military the 2271 01:30:48,989 --> 01:30:47,530 military response was so quick they sent 2272 01:30:50,219 --> 01:30:48,999 a helicopter and they said the people in 2273 01:30:51,929 --> 01:30:50,229 the ground were afraid because you 2274 01:30:54,060 --> 01:30:51,939 didn't really know how a copters back 2275 01:30:55,709 --> 01:30:54,070 then you know helicopters weren't used 2276 01:30:57,899 --> 01:30:55,719 in world war ii they were new in the 2277 01:30:58,799 --> 01:30:57,909 late 40s I saw this thing coming making 2278 01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:58,809 all the noise they thought it was 2279 01:31:02,339 --> 01:31:00,639 another alien craft a lot of them they 2280 01:31:04,189 --> 01:31:02,349 had never seen a helicopter but that's 2281 01:31:06,779 --> 01:31:04,199 how quick the military response was and 2282 01:31:08,339 --> 01:31:06,789 you know and kind of from there you just 2283 01:31:10,739 --> 01:31:08,349 kind of fell all the timeline it looks 2284 01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:10,749 like there was something going on there 2285 01:31:14,549 --> 01:31:12,880 you know once again more evidence in 2286 01:31:16,319 --> 01:31:14,559 more research you know good research 2287 01:31:18,089 --> 01:31:16,329 done and then Roswell sorry and I mean 2288 01:31:20,219 --> 01:31:18,099 and they're still they're still going 2289 01:31:21,929 --> 01:31:20,229 into air university at Maxwell Air Force 2290 01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:21,939 Base they get you know they're still 2291 01:31:25,949 --> 01:31:24,400 researching documents and I guess that's 2292 01:31:28,350 --> 01:31:25,959 the other appeal that I have for it 2293 01:31:30,660 --> 01:31:28,360 there are exemplary examples both these 2294 01:31:32,939 --> 01:31:30,670 sets are just exemplary examples of 2295 01:31:36,870 --> 01:31:32,949 people that have taken the right kind of 2296 01:31:38,250 --> 01:31:36,880 approach and and and not blown any smoke 2297 01:31:39,779 --> 01:31:38,260 up maxixe but he does too 2298 01:31:42,180 --> 01:31:39,789 same thing with his books on the on the 2299 01:31:45,180 --> 01:31:42,190 on his nonfiction stuff he doesn't print 2300 01:31:46,979 --> 01:31:45,190 it unless he has good reasonable sources 2301 01:31:48,330 --> 01:31:46,989 than to present it and that's what makes 2302 01:31:50,669 --> 01:31:48,340 a difference on it because the stuff 2303 01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:50,679 that he had there going back to World 2304 01:31:54,029 --> 01:31:52,630 War one and you know talking about what 2305 01:31:56,250 --> 01:31:54,039 happened in world one and in the 2306 01:31:58,919 --> 01:31:56,260 engagement why are UFOs around war time 2307 01:32:01,500 --> 01:31:58,929 I it's there there's a body of evidence 2308 01:32:03,270 --> 01:32:01,510 there that gets passed up come on I'm 2309 01:32:03,899 --> 01:32:03,280 getting scared now he's never been like 2310 01:32:09,689 --> 01:32:03,909 this before 2311 01:32:11,450 --> 01:32:09,699 what you know complementary what's 2312 01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:11,460 what's in a while he is like 2313 01:32:17,549 --> 01:32:15,280 accidentally no I I want to just talk a 2314 01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:17,559 little bit quickly Phoenix lights I do 2315 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:21,010 agree is right in the very top there's 2316 01:32:25,379 --> 01:32:23,170 been I remembered I was talking to Peter 2317 01:32:27,859 --> 01:32:25,389 Davenport when he first got was getting 2318 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:27,869 the case called in to him wait he said 2319 01:32:31,319 --> 01:32:30,130 that people were explaining that it 2320 01:32:34,109 --> 01:32:31,329 seemed like this graph could have been 2321 01:32:36,810 --> 01:32:34,119 up to eight miles wide a lot of people 2322 01:32:40,770 --> 01:32:36,820 talk about that no they don't but the 2323 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:40,780 one thing about I've a number of people 2324 01:32:44,729 --> 01:32:42,489 have talked about I don't know but a 2325 01:32:47,790 --> 01:32:44,739 number of people have said that Linds 2326 01:32:50,459 --> 01:32:47,800 lenka ties film is actually the flares 2327 01:32:52,259 --> 01:32:50,469 not that people didn't get I think 2328 01:32:54,299 --> 01:32:52,269 there's only one real film of it and 2329 01:32:55,919 --> 01:32:54,309 it's amazing you think no one had you 2330 01:32:58,259 --> 01:32:55,929 know camera phones back then right she 2331 01:33:00,270 --> 01:32:58,269 had a camcorder and not a lot of people 2332 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:00,280 they were outside at night I mean no one 2333 01:33:04,410 --> 01:33:01,449 would have a camera or something with 2334 01:33:05,700 --> 01:33:04,420 him but she has if that if that is the 2335 01:33:08,009 --> 01:33:05,710 case and I don't know if that's the case 2336 01:33:10,049 --> 01:33:08,019 or not I do agree that she has done a 2337 01:33:12,660 --> 01:33:10,059 lot of really good research and she's 2338 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:12,670 you know followed followed through with 2339 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:15,010 a lot of things and you know I think you 2340 01:33:20,220 --> 01:33:18,130 know she's she has added to that case 2341 01:33:22,259 --> 01:33:20,230 and kept it alive you know what was the 2342 01:33:23,790 --> 01:33:22,269 point for me when I started to believe 2343 01:33:26,069 --> 01:33:23,800 it is when didn't the governor come out 2344 01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:26,079 with someone dressed like as alien yes 2345 01:33:30,839 --> 01:33:28,239 what was the remark I'm eatin you and I 2346 01:33:33,419 --> 01:33:30,849 had this talk when the when the the 2347 01:33:35,459 --> 01:33:33,429 release in December wouldn't it was one 2348 01:33:38,549 --> 01:33:35,469 of the local news ones and they did the 2349 01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:38,559 ha ha hee hee et you know ended with me 2350 01:33:43,259 --> 01:33:40,510 in the boat business on there and I 2351 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:43,269 think that that is part of the the 2352 01:33:47,279 --> 01:33:45,010 response and anybody tells me that they 2353 01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:47,289 don't think that the media takes a lot 2354 01:33:52,050 --> 01:33:50,530 of direction from intelligence agencies 2355 01:33:54,180 --> 01:33:52,060 needs to look up operation 2356 01:33:56,580 --> 01:33:54,190 King bird really know what I want to you 2357 01:33:58,800 --> 01:33:56,590 operation Mockingbird yes if you pick 2358 01:34:02,210 --> 01:33:58,810 was that you definitely have to get him 2359 01:34:04,170 --> 01:34:02,220 a book I'm telling you he's got a read 2360 01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:04,180 you know that's the problem you have the 2361 01:34:08,370 --> 01:34:05,890 pretty faces you know 2362 01:34:09,930 --> 01:34:08,380 okay so here's up in chat and I'm not 2363 01:34:12,150 --> 01:34:09,940 saying on one side of this to the other 2364 01:34:13,860 --> 01:34:12,160 because I every time I talk politics 2365 01:34:15,810 --> 01:34:13,870 that I get in big trouble so I'm just 2366 01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:15,820 gonna just read what someone said in the 2367 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:17,770 chatroom Carter was refused by Bush 2368 01:34:22,350 --> 01:34:20,530 Clinton was refused access do you really 2369 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:22,360 think they would tell Trump then down 2370 01:34:26,910 --> 01:34:24,970 below that maybe they would Charles who 2371 01:34:28,620 --> 01:34:26,920 would really believe him now but cope 2372 01:34:30,210 --> 01:34:28,630 don't they have to if the president 2373 01:34:33,990 --> 01:34:30,220 asked for something anything they have 2374 01:34:36,510 --> 01:34:34,000 to tell me yeah but don't think answer 2375 01:34:38,550 --> 01:34:36,520 but don't think for a second that the 2376 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:38,560 president because he asked for something 2377 01:34:42,570 --> 01:34:41,050 he's going to get what he wants it if 2378 01:34:44,550 --> 01:34:42,580 you think that and the times were living 2379 01:34:46,230 --> 01:34:44,560 in Mac I can't believe that you believe 2380 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:46,240 that and I don't think any president has 2381 01:34:50,220 --> 01:34:48,130 gotten that access I just think that 2382 01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:50,230 someone who has that's the right Percy 2383 01:34:54,180 --> 01:34:51,730 he may not be able to ask the right 2384 01:34:56,670 --> 01:34:54,190 person no but we have national security 2385 01:34:59,010 --> 01:34:56,680 packaged and how it goes forward there 2386 01:35:02,490 --> 01:34:59,020 are people that believe they are above 2387 01:35:03,870 --> 01:35:02,500 the elected officials we all say that 2388 01:35:05,370 --> 01:35:03,880 the eyes here there was he's turning at 2389 01:35:10,710 --> 01:35:05,380 the flock of seagulls remember those 2390 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:10,720 guys about your phone when you get done 2391 01:35:16,650 --> 01:35:13,690 with with you know throwing the crap and 2392 01:35:19,380 --> 01:35:16,660 get down to it there are too many folks 2393 01:35:22,140 --> 01:35:19,390 who think they are above what's going on 2394 01:35:24,780 --> 01:35:22,150 they believe that their positions are 2395 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:24,790 superior to the people we have a like I 2396 01:35:28,110 --> 01:35:26,050 mean yeah she's something okay 2397 01:35:30,950 --> 01:35:28,120 well didn't somebody leave high levels 2398 01:35:36,570 --> 01:35:30,960 of the government and joined up with 2399 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:36,580 MUFON right because of well no he sent 2400 01:35:40,350 --> 01:35:38,530 about Podesta I think I just want to ask 2401 01:35:42,780 --> 01:35:40,360 you a question I don't you think that 2402 01:35:44,460 --> 01:35:42,790 he's a curious guy yes okay don't you 2403 01:35:47,490 --> 01:35:44,470 think that he would ask the question yes 2404 01:35:49,860 --> 01:35:47,500 okay now I'm gonna ask you a question oh 2405 01:35:53,220 --> 01:35:49,870 you don't think that the timing at 2406 01:35:54,990 --> 01:35:53,230 December has anything to do I think I 2407 01:35:58,260 --> 01:35:55,000 think it just happens you think Harry 2408 01:35:59,730 --> 01:35:58,270 Reid holds on to this and is part of 2409 01:36:01,530 --> 01:35:59,740 this and it just comes out and just some 2410 01:36:02,580 --> 01:36:01,540 know there was a reason they did you're 2411 01:36:03,630 --> 01:36:02,590 absolutely right because there's a 2412 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:03,640 reason they put that out there's no 2413 01:36:07,010 --> 01:36:04,650 doubt about it 2414 01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:07,020 so what one reason I see it more 2415 01:36:13,220 --> 01:36:09,330 nefarious than most people do because I 2416 01:36:15,590 --> 01:36:13,230 see our guardians are self-appointed 2417 01:36:17,930 --> 01:36:15,600 guardians thinking that they know better 2418 01:36:20,780 --> 01:36:17,940 than the rest of us and I call BS to all 2419 01:36:24,830 --> 01:36:20,790 of that okay separate cause tonight when 2420 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:24,840 we go to the bathroom say now wait a 2421 01:36:41,090 --> 01:36:32,730 minute so they on the FDA I want to 2422 01:36:44,030 --> 01:36:42,500 yeah that would get the show you know 2423 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:44,040 after the two hours but there you go on 2424 01:36:52,310 --> 01:36:47,610 one I've said many times before a to one 2425 01:36:54,110 --> 01:36:52,320 one all right one I love you to see us 2426 01:36:54,590 --> 01:36:54,120 don't take offense we have one you're in 2427 01:36:56,990 --> 01:36:54,600 the hot seat 2428 01:36:59,450 --> 01:36:57,000 okay spotlights on you one one my 2429 01:37:01,399 --> 01:36:59,460 favorite just where he wanted to be here 2430 01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:01,409 here we are an x-ray we haven't talked 2431 01:37:07,399 --> 01:37:04,560 about the Betty and Barney Hill hmm Wow 2432 01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:07,409 because but but that's what we had Cathy 2433 01:37:12,290 --> 01:37:08,250 mazdan 2434 01:37:15,110 --> 01:37:12,300 talking about I'm sorry and she appears 2435 01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:15,120 that welcome under festival yeah she's a 2436 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:16,770 very nice woman we kind of won the show 2437 01:37:20,990 --> 01:37:19,290 but she's not she's just a very nice 2438 01:37:22,850 --> 01:37:21,000 woman yeah 2439 01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:22,860 we should have run again okay it's been 2440 01:37:29,149 --> 01:37:26,810 a while okay Betty and Barney Hill 1961 2441 01:37:31,490 --> 01:37:29,159 and here's a couple coming back from 2442 01:37:35,930 --> 01:37:31,500 what was it a vacation and not Niagara 2443 01:37:38,300 --> 01:37:35,940 Falls slowly I turn slowly I turn and 2444 01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:38,310 they're from up the road a piece of 2445 01:37:45,860 --> 01:37:41,730 Portsmouth so they did Lee bopping along 2446 01:37:48,140 --> 01:37:45,870 in the car through the knotch Franconia 2447 01:37:51,530 --> 01:37:48,150 Notch ela that are Google's Franconia 2448 01:37:53,330 --> 01:37:51,540 Notch and knots I don't have an accent 2449 01:37:55,550 --> 01:37:53,340 do i oh no not you none man 2450 01:37:59,120 --> 01:37:55,560 okay so they're coming back on the notch 2451 01:38:01,220 --> 01:37:59,130 and they seem to be followed by the 2452 01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:01,230 spacecraft well there's no well I first 2453 01:38:09,770 --> 01:38:04,320 like it being there being followed 2454 01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:09,780 and some time passes Nancy did you read 2455 01:38:16,759 --> 01:38:13,409 the book I did I did so I saw the movie 2456 01:38:21,700 --> 01:38:16,769 too he started the books on tape 2457 01:38:28,399 --> 01:38:21,710 okay good make a long story short 2458 01:38:31,129 --> 01:38:28,409 oh that is not nothing kind of so the 2459 01:38:34,089 --> 01:38:31,139 driver backed out for miles and miles 2460 01:38:44,509 --> 01:38:34,099 are being followed by this light and 2461 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:44,519 eventually they disappear and you don't 2462 01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:46,530 know what's happening until they got 2463 01:38:51,470 --> 01:38:49,679 interviewed separately by various 2464 01:38:53,959 --> 01:38:51,480 psychologist saying you know and dr. 2465 01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:53,969 Simon uh-huh it was dr. Simon sent dr. 2466 01:38:58,330 --> 01:38:56,010 Simon or Symington Simon I forget his 2467 01:39:00,529 --> 01:38:58,340 name yeah Simon is from there 2468 01:39:03,799 --> 01:39:00,539 each one of them were being interviewed 2469 01:39:06,919 --> 01:39:03,809 separately and they had they were being 2470 01:39:11,419 --> 01:39:06,929 interviewed like under hypnosis if I'm 2471 01:39:16,839 --> 01:39:11,429 not mistaken and they corroborated each 2472 01:39:19,250 --> 01:39:16,849 other story pretty closely that they 2473 01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:19,260 were taking on the spacecraft 2474 01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:23,010 things happen to them saying it they're 2475 01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:26,639 approached okay from just just like just 2476 01:39:34,339 --> 01:39:32,130 like on The Simpsons they were probed it 2477 01:39:35,689 --> 01:39:34,349 always has credibility to show like this 2478 01:39:38,450 --> 01:39:35,699 I appreciate that 2479 01:39:40,580 --> 01:39:38,460 can I do the right now I'm not have to 2480 01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:40,590 pay the charge I don't know how they 2481 01:39:46,580 --> 01:39:42,449 were probed with they're there okay I 2482 01:39:48,649 --> 01:39:46,590 get the general gist nothing to see here 2483 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:48,659 is it let me just is that why it's your 2484 01:39:58,189 --> 01:39:56,130 favorite case are you turn it dies right 2485 01:39:58,970 --> 01:39:58,199 it has to do the tenth question yet one 2486 01:40:01,310 --> 01:39:58,980 long okay 2487 01:40:03,589 --> 01:40:01,320 he's got to email us to ten questions 2488 01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:03,599 for one why next time all right first 2489 01:40:10,759 --> 01:40:05,010 question it has his we'd to get that 2490 01:40:13,370 --> 01:40:10,769 shirt I got this it's this okay yeah New 2491 01:40:15,410 --> 01:40:13,380 Hampshire at the drugstore oh really 2492 01:40:17,070 --> 01:40:15,420 yeah okay nice I do all my shopping at 2493 01:40:23,740 --> 01:40:17,080 the drugstore 2494 01:40:26,110 --> 01:40:23,750 okay no I actually stayed overnight and 2495 01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:26,120 I thought I put the shirt in my suitcase 2496 01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:28,130 but I'm put swimming trunks instead 2497 01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:30,110 really yeah let's make that mistake 2498 01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:34,490 often I think his call sides gonna be 2499 01:40:45,970 --> 01:40:41,450 senator anyway come on like drugstore 2500 01:40:49,110 --> 01:40:45,980 shirt the same place that sells the five 2501 01:40:51,700 --> 01:40:49,120 hot dogs for a buck hand points because 2502 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:51,710 JJ is living proof that you can live 2503 01:40:56,530 --> 01:40:53,930 after doing it for about twenty years 2504 01:40:59,620 --> 01:40:56,540 oh really right that great he's only 2505 01:41:02,560 --> 01:40:59,630 twenty new store in Newburyport yes Wow 2506 01:41:09,450 --> 01:41:02,570 retail for dogs for a buck for dogs for 2507 01:41:15,940 --> 01:41:14,800 we left Benny and right yeah there's no 2508 01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:15,950 that was one of your favorite what's 2509 01:41:21,460 --> 01:41:17,360 your second trade you will fall just to 2510 01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:21,470 move have a second favorite I want no 2511 01:41:26,380 --> 01:41:23,090 more about Betty and Barney Hill do you 2512 01:41:29,230 --> 01:41:26,390 go because it always stops it probe once 2513 01:41:31,180 --> 01:41:29,240 we get to the probe you fall upon you no 2514 01:41:32,620 --> 01:41:31,190 the question is did did it happen or 2515 01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:32,630 didn't it happen I think everybody wants 2516 01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:35,920 to know if it really happened that 2517 01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:38,960 something happen when pictures we want I 2518 01:41:43,630 --> 01:41:41,330 mean some on because they do have this 2519 01:41:46,060 --> 01:41:43,640 that's a real story that the important I 2520 01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:46,070 would like the note here is that Barney 2521 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:48,530 Hill didn't really want to talk much 2522 01:41:54,190 --> 01:41:50,810 about this because he really was a 2523 01:41:56,290 --> 01:41:54,200 strong civil rights pursuer he worked 2524 01:41:58,120 --> 01:41:56,300 really really hard at that and he felt 2525 01:41:59,560 --> 01:41:58,130 this was gonna overshadow and he really 2526 01:42:00,940 --> 01:41:59,570 didn't that's reason why he was very 2527 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:00,950 lucky and they did they weren't the ones 2528 01:42:04,570 --> 01:42:02,810 who leaked the story that's right is 2529 01:42:06,370 --> 01:42:04,580 correct as well and he's you know being 2530 01:42:08,500 --> 01:42:06,380 an interracial couple that they took a 2531 01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:08,510 lot of hits on that yeah nearly as 2532 01:42:13,060 --> 01:42:11,210 progressive as or enlightened or 2533 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:13,070 whatever word we want to use that you 2534 01:42:17,170 --> 01:42:15,530 know they paid a heavy price for when 2535 01:42:18,490 --> 01:42:17,180 the story came out coming forward trying 2536 01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:18,500 to figure out what had happened there 2537 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:22,130 and I I think to their memory especially 2538 01:42:28,630 --> 01:42:26,570 in the case of mr. Hill you know he he 2539 01:42:29,979 --> 01:42:28,640 took it pretty squarely on the chin in a 2540 01:42:34,750 --> 01:42:29,989 lot of areas and he and he 2541 01:42:37,570 --> 01:42:34,760 big concerns and Betty for years I she 2542 01:42:39,610 --> 01:42:37,580 would show up she was treated I think at 2543 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:39,620 least with a certain modicum of respect 2544 01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:41,930 but she always kind of to me didn't get 2545 01:42:45,670 --> 01:42:44,090 a fair shake because she when she was 2546 01:42:47,410 --> 01:42:45,680 still alive and here she would always 2547 01:42:49,510 --> 01:42:47,420 get asked like once a year you'd see her 2548 01:42:51,190 --> 01:42:49,520 on one of the local TV stations show up 2549 01:42:53,260 --> 01:42:51,200 and she was talking about what she 2550 01:42:54,910 --> 01:42:53,270 experienced and what had gone on and you 2551 01:42:58,060 --> 01:42:54,920 know much like we talked about there's 2552 01:43:00,130 --> 01:42:58,070 always the the UFO the alien mask the 2553 01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:00,140 you know the little green man vs that 2554 01:43:06,340 --> 01:43:03,290 goes along with that and you know it to 2555 01:43:08,979 --> 01:43:06,350 me maybe we're at the point we're close 2556 01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:08,989 to it that no I don't believe everybody 2557 01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:10,730 who claims that they have an experience 2558 01:43:13,420 --> 01:43:12,320 and there's a lot of folks that I've had 2559 01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:13,430 on the show a lot of folks that we've 2560 01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:14,930 talked collectively on the show that I'm 2561 01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:17,840 not convinced that they did it but um 2562 01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:19,730 you know do respect you know that 2563 01:43:23,140 --> 01:43:21,440 person's on there unless they do 2564 01:43:25,540 --> 01:43:23,150 something that you know doesn't earn 2565 01:43:27,490 --> 01:43:25,550 them or doesn't guarantee me respect 2566 01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:27,500 hopefully that's finally changing but in 2567 01:43:32,590 --> 01:43:30,050 this case this couple was not treated 2568 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:32,600 that way and it is a very sad or dark 2569 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:35,330 side of there's a ton of psychological 2570 01:43:41,290 --> 01:43:39,050 damage imposed on those poor people and 2571 01:43:43,540 --> 01:43:41,300 yeah and then toward the end of Betty's 2572 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:43,550 life she had the brain tumor yeah why 2573 01:43:48,610 --> 01:43:45,410 she wasn't herself and a lot of people 2574 01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:48,620 will use that absolutely she was in that 2575 01:43:54,610 --> 01:43:52,610 case because she she wasn't in that case 2576 01:43:58,420 --> 01:43:54,620 she people thought she might have been 2577 01:44:01,090 --> 01:43:58,430 right and people that I know that 2578 01:44:02,709 --> 01:44:01,100 actually knew her said she was a lovely 2579 01:44:04,270 --> 01:44:02,719 person yep 2580 01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:04,280 and they just seemed to be you know why 2581 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:06,110 them you know what I mean why them I 2582 01:44:09,459 --> 01:44:07,850 mean they just seem to be just I know 2583 01:44:11,020 --> 01:44:09,469 they were an interracial couple but 2584 01:44:13,420 --> 01:44:11,030 other than that they just seemed to be 2585 01:44:15,459 --> 01:44:13,430 the most normal down-to-earth people and 2586 01:44:16,540 --> 01:44:15,469 just unlikely people to make this up 2587 01:44:18,490 --> 01:44:16,550 that's what I was saying earlier you 2588 01:44:20,890 --> 01:44:18,500 know I get a feeling that it's the it's 2589 01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:20,900 the people who I don't want to say I 2590 01:44:24,729 --> 01:44:22,760 know where but people who haven't like 2591 01:44:26,770 --> 01:44:24,739 you know looked into UFOs and you know 2592 01:44:28,750 --> 01:44:26,780 abductions and so it seems like those 2593 01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:28,760 are the people that it happens to is if 2594 01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:30,770 you're an expert on UFOs it doesn't seem 2595 01:44:35,979 --> 01:44:33,280 you liking abducted to me I don't know 2596 01:44:36,820 --> 01:44:35,989 cuz you never hear of it you know you 2597 01:44:38,770 --> 01:44:36,830 know it'd be different if you were a 2598 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:38,780 scientist you're out but you never hear 2599 01:44:41,050 --> 01:44:39,650 that you know what I mean 2600 01:44:43,660 --> 01:44:41,060 you never hear of it but you do hear 2601 01:44:45,419 --> 01:44:43,670 like cops and military people and 2602 01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:45,429 you know stuff like that you know so 2603 01:44:54,250 --> 01:44:49,280 almost well we have a how many cops saw 2604 01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:54,260 the spacecraft in Exeter I mean it was 2605 01:44:59,800 --> 01:44:58,010 like yeah well the I'm sorry yeah we 2606 01:45:01,950 --> 01:44:59,810 should say police departments right 2607 01:45:04,419 --> 01:45:01,960 right yeah Pease Air Force Base which is 2608 01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:04,429 gigantic Air Force Base up in Portsmouth 2609 01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:06,170 er which is now kind of deactivated they 2610 01:45:10,030 --> 01:45:08,330 do still flyer so fuel is out of there 2611 01:45:11,950 --> 01:45:10,040 but they do bring commercial flights but 2612 01:45:13,540 --> 01:45:11,960 at the time it was enormous and it was a 2613 01:45:15,610 --> 01:45:13,550 sac base okay and they used to base 2614 01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:15,620 airplanes there with atomic weapons and 2615 01:45:21,070 --> 01:45:19,370 so on and so forth the squadron down at 2616 01:45:22,990 --> 01:45:21,080 Roswell which was at the time the young 2617 01:45:26,050 --> 01:45:23,000 squad didn't have atomic weapons they 2618 01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:26,060 moved up to PCF ios5 all night and as 2619 01:45:29,650 --> 01:45:27,920 soon as they did because your friend the 2620 01:45:31,390 --> 01:45:29,660 musician there who didn't want us to do 2621 01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:31,400 a segment he said during the same he 2622 01:45:34,540 --> 01:45:33,110 says right away you were four reports 2623 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:34,550 went up okay fine there's lots of 2624 01:45:38,590 --> 01:45:36,530 airplanes flying around but then people 2625 01:45:40,030 --> 01:45:38,600 that in the accidents and they said this 2626 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:40,040 is no way a plane because we live around 2627 01:45:43,150 --> 01:45:41,570 here we know what it's like when these 2628 01:45:44,470 --> 01:45:43,160 things are going over right yeah you 2629 01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:44,480 know they don't float they don't however 2630 01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:46,730 they don't know so two of them the both 2631 01:45:52,150 --> 01:45:49,010 of them are very intriguing cases and 2632 01:45:54,610 --> 01:45:52,160 they just haven't happened nearby that's 2633 01:45:57,459 --> 01:45:54,620 right Pisa I lived when I grew up I 2634 01:45:59,020 --> 01:45:57,469 lived in Elliot Maine and I lived on top 2635 01:46:00,939 --> 01:45:59,030 of what was called Winter Hill and I 2636 01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:00,949 could actually look right over the river 2637 01:46:05,620 --> 01:46:03,679 and see peas and I used to as a kid I 2638 01:46:07,330 --> 01:46:05,630 used to sit there and watch you know 2639 01:46:09,370 --> 01:46:07,340 planes land and take off and stuff like 2640 01:46:11,050 --> 01:46:09,380 that I remember being in my house you 2641 01:46:12,580 --> 01:46:11,060 know listen the whole house is shaking I 2642 01:46:14,979 --> 01:46:12,590 remember the chandelier moving back and 2643 01:46:17,709 --> 01:46:14,989 forth and brash oh really yeah well yeah 2644 01:46:20,410 --> 01:46:17,719 well but there was a UFO flap in the 2645 01:46:22,570 --> 01:46:20,420 area and I remember my sisters and I 2646 01:46:24,370 --> 01:46:22,580 sitting out on the lawn looking for UFOs 2647 01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:24,380 I was a little kid right and then you 2648 01:46:28,959 --> 01:46:26,960 know it so I didn't I had that interest 2649 01:46:30,459 --> 01:46:28,969 as a kid and I kind of went away from it 2650 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:30,469 until I actually had my own sighting 2651 01:46:34,330 --> 01:46:32,330 later on so you would expect that people 2652 01:46:36,610 --> 01:46:34,340 would see more strange stuff flying in 2653 01:46:38,500 --> 01:46:36,620 the sky okay you know being until they 2654 01:46:40,540 --> 01:46:38,510 were used to this you know squadron be 2655 01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:40,550 in there okay but 10 years down the line 2656 01:46:44,860 --> 01:46:43,010 like these people said you know this 2657 01:46:46,030 --> 01:46:44,870 happens every night we see the planes go 2658 01:46:48,820 --> 01:46:46,040 over every night we know what the lights 2659 01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:48,830 look like and so on and this wasn't them 2660 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:51,050 you know so you know take it from there 2661 01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:53,530 Mack you maybe think of something the 2662 01:46:59,140 --> 01:46:57,530 and almost ironic thought 2663 01:47:03,930 --> 01:46:59,150 it's just the opposite when you get out 2664 01:47:06,129 --> 01:47:03,940 anywhere near Tonopah and area 51 2665 01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:06,139 anything that goes by there everyone's 2666 01:47:09,459 --> 01:47:07,489 convinced it's some new breaking 2667 01:47:12,459 --> 01:47:09,469 military technology so if you did want 2668 01:47:14,469 --> 01:47:12,469 to mainline a UFO career perfect place 2669 01:47:17,049 --> 01:47:14,479 to fly it on yeah sure but they just was 2670 01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:17,059 a huge flop tyler rugger a good friend 2671 01:47:22,899 --> 01:47:20,449 of mine from the war zone they have 2672 01:47:25,660 --> 01:47:22,909 documented f-117 still flying you know 2673 01:47:29,259 --> 01:47:25,670 oh really yeah hiring our really good 2674 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:29,269 buds he's been a true he is one of the 2675 01:47:32,259 --> 01:47:31,010 great investigative reporters he doesn't 2676 01:47:34,180 --> 01:47:32,269 have strong feeling in our accept but 2677 01:47:35,799 --> 01:47:34,190 when there's a story he'll he's he's 2678 01:47:37,450 --> 01:47:35,809 cracked a lot of it good knows everyone 2679 01:47:38,859 --> 01:47:37,460 you know everyone well I just got this 2680 01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:38,869 rug connected I got there very friendly 2681 01:47:41,709 --> 01:47:40,130 with him because he's just a really 2682 01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:41,719 great guy not like his writing style I 2683 01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:43,130 mean he's you're writing that got me 2684 01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:46,489 interested in science he you know he's 2685 01:47:51,279 --> 01:47:48,110 not Cobra for nothing why is he doing 2686 01:47:53,620 --> 01:47:51,289 this tonight I'm really the standard 2687 01:48:02,620 --> 01:47:53,630 warning his resume I bite you'll need 2688 01:48:04,979 --> 01:48:02,630 insulin suite medical how much time do 2689 01:48:08,589 --> 01:48:04,989 we have the yeah we have a we have about 2690 01:48:10,620 --> 01:48:08,599 10 just under 10 minutes someone Doug 2691 01:48:12,939 --> 01:48:10,630 was mentioning Travis Walton up on the 2692 01:48:14,319 --> 01:48:12,949 very nice man yep that we've all met 2693 01:48:16,810 --> 01:48:14,329 Rodney and he's been on the show with 2694 01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:16,820 Mac just some simple days ago a nice guy 2695 01:48:19,779 --> 01:48:18,800 was gonna go I've interviewed him a 2696 01:48:22,209 --> 01:48:19,789 number of times and one time I 2697 01:48:24,129 --> 01:48:22,219 interviewed him completely like all 2698 01:48:26,169 --> 01:48:24,139 right let's not talk about your incident 2699 01:48:28,330 --> 01:48:26,179 was two other things very interesting 2700 01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:28,340 yes he's an intelligent guy he was 2701 01:48:32,979 --> 01:48:31,130 sitting at a cafe in the north end on 2702 01:48:35,379 --> 01:48:32,989 the phone right you know someone I 2703 01:48:38,830 --> 01:48:35,389 forget exactly who was with him Oh Susan 2704 01:48:41,410 --> 01:48:38,840 Susan right yeah and from the Greater 2705 01:48:43,450 --> 01:48:41,420 New England UFO conference right and um 2706 01:48:45,009 --> 01:48:43,460 in Leominster mass we only have like 2707 01:48:46,419 --> 01:48:45,019 three minutes to talk to him so we asked 2708 01:48:48,850 --> 01:48:46,429 him the burning question which we've 2709 01:48:52,239 --> 01:48:48,860 talked about why we said is it easier 2710 01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:52,249 and I'm serious about it you guys can is 2711 01:48:57,700 --> 01:48:55,280 it easier if you let's say a celebrity 2712 01:49:03,040 --> 01:48:57,710 in the UFO community to pick up women 2713 01:49:04,390 --> 01:49:03,050 okay he's drink just set the scene he's 2714 01:49:07,110 --> 01:49:04,400 in the North End he's having a 2715 01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:07,120 cappuccino he's with a woman yes 2716 01:49:14,940 --> 01:49:09,490 and he comes right back he said yeah 2717 01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:14,950 yeah like great wait for a second okay 2718 01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:17,170 you go to these conferences and so on 2719 01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:19,210 right you automatically have something 2720 01:49:22,050 --> 01:49:20,650 in common you know and that's the thing 2721 01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:22,060 that people are always looking at what 2722 01:49:27,540 --> 01:49:24,850 am I gonna talk to her about okay sure 2723 01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:27,550 or UFO conference reptilians whatever 2724 01:49:32,220 --> 01:49:29,920 you see what she's into and take it from 2725 01:49:34,230 --> 01:49:32,230 there you know and he immediately agreed 2726 01:49:36,990 --> 01:49:34,240 I mean the coffee cup wasn't even out of 2727 01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:37,000 his mother says yeah sure we're gonna do 2728 01:49:43,740 --> 01:49:39,730 a whole show on it so so you didn't ask 2729 01:49:45,390 --> 01:49:43,750 him about you know they never came up 2730 01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:45,400 can you believe it Barton it never came 2731 01:49:50,460 --> 01:49:48,210 up you only have him for three minutes 2732 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:50,470 every night he went out to the he is a 2733 01:49:56,250 --> 01:49:53,250 nice out to the Roach coach that was a 2734 01:49:57,540 --> 01:49:56,260 free food for us that's for celebrities 2735 01:50:00,270 --> 01:49:57,550 for celebrities and they gave us free 2736 01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:00,280 food at the yeah and the roads coach has 2737 01:50:06,780 --> 01:50:05,440 JJ's we would have got the fries Dale 2738 01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:06,790 yeah we didn't have to have a price 2739 01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:08,410 that's right they weren't even a buck oh 2740 01:50:11,550 --> 01:50:09,280 they're free 2741 01:50:13,530 --> 01:50:11,560 he said oh you guys on the way out you 2742 01:50:15,480 --> 01:50:13,540 you're talking to somebody and then you 2743 01:50:16,890 --> 01:50:15,490 just have a common bond because you're 2744 01:50:19,290 --> 01:50:16,900 there right so you have instant 2745 01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:19,300 credibility so it's it's easy like you 2746 01:50:22,440 --> 01:50:21,010 said Mac it's easy to meet somebody 2747 01:50:24,270 --> 01:50:22,450 there's your way of saying that you 2748 01:50:26,070 --> 01:50:24,280 won't you think about that conference so 2749 01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:26,080 you think about that offices Mac 2750 01:50:29,210 --> 01:50:27,970 wouldn't be Mac without that proverbial 2751 01:50:32,340 --> 01:50:29,220 question 2752 01:50:34,260 --> 01:50:32,350 that's correct about go pick up girls in 2753 01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:34,270 yeah yeah I just think it makes common 2754 01:50:38,820 --> 01:50:36,250 sense to me you know I mean I think that 2755 01:50:41,130 --> 01:50:38,830 you can sit down and go what about that 2756 01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:41,140 Aztec crash you know what about that 2757 01:50:45,090 --> 01:50:43,210 Kanda thing don't you think isn't that a 2758 01:50:48,030 --> 01:50:45,100 bit Coco I'm welcoming you as if oh 2759 01:50:50,250 --> 01:50:48,040 absolutely I just I I just keep thinking 2760 01:50:50,610 --> 01:50:50,260 that line from the inquiring minds want 2761 01:50:52,410 --> 01:50:50,620 to know 2762 01:50:54,780 --> 01:50:52,420 I mean that's all Mac is doing he's he's 2763 01:50:57,060 --> 01:50:54,790 asking the questions that people want to 2764 01:50:58,770 --> 01:50:57,070 know they see his support flagging yeah 2765 01:51:01,820 --> 01:50:58,780 you know it's been really good for most 2766 01:51:07,530 --> 01:51:01,830 of the chill yeah so Mac as a culture 2767 01:51:10,410 --> 01:51:07,540 Cobra Martin do we want to believe that 2768 01:51:13,770 --> 01:51:10,420 they exist or do we or if we knew would 2769 01:51:15,020 --> 01:51:13,780 be scared out of our wits alone II I 2770 01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:15,030 think that he'll ran thing is 2771 01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:18,449 there but I think the more than 50% of 2772 01:51:22,459 --> 01:51:20,159 people around the world I mean around 2773 01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:22,469 the world want to see something come 2774 01:51:25,700 --> 01:51:24,210 here and say there's life in other 2775 01:51:27,169 --> 01:51:25,710 worlds because we want to know that it's 2776 01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:27,179 real yeah because if it is it's the 2777 01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:30,210 greatest you know leap forward in human 2778 01:51:34,729 --> 01:51:33,119 history because why would it be thinking 2779 01:51:39,169 --> 01:51:34,739 that earth is the only planet that's 2780 01:51:40,669 --> 01:51:39,179 happened by anybody yeah yeah and nobody 2781 01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:40,679 that's even the why that's the most wild 2782 01:51:44,660 --> 01:51:43,440 explanation I have to ask what Bible are 2783 01:51:47,029 --> 01:51:44,670 they reading that they get the 2784 01:51:49,459 --> 01:51:47,039 indications that that is not right you 2785 01:51:51,830 --> 01:51:49,469 know I I guess I get I read the wrong 2786 01:51:53,689 --> 01:51:51,840 version of it that everyone is quote and 2787 01:51:54,729 --> 01:51:53,699 when they come up with this there's a 2788 01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:54,739 movie you know 2789 01:52:03,379 --> 01:51:57,599 well series one one gets done reading 2790 01:52:05,299 --> 01:52:03,389 he'll pass it to me well what do you 2791 01:52:09,169 --> 01:52:05,309 think about the Drake Equation let's 2792 01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:09,179 make an example of that okay perfect 2793 01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:11,130 I think a good scientific basis on a 2794 01:52:16,399 --> 01:52:14,880 theory that that makes it plain that the 2795 01:52:19,279 --> 01:52:16,409 possibilities and the probabilities are 2796 01:52:21,890 --> 01:52:19,289 extremely probable hi yeah there's a 2797 01:52:23,810 --> 01:52:21,900 little different equation today since we 2798 01:52:25,129 --> 01:52:23,820 know so much more but absolutely yeah we 2799 01:52:26,750 --> 01:52:25,139 should say it's an equation that some 2800 01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:26,760 guy came up with was his name Drake 2801 01:52:32,359 --> 01:52:29,130 right yeah well he can't prove how they 2802 01:52:33,859 --> 01:52:32,369 do that they put together an algorithm 2803 01:52:35,629 --> 01:52:33,869 who knows but he came up with a 2804 01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:35,639 percentage of there's just like so many 2805 01:52:40,700 --> 01:52:37,530 planets out there so many stars so many 2806 01:52:43,729 --> 01:52:40,710 galaxies okay there's a there's 200 2807 01:52:44,959 --> 01:52:43,739 billion galaxies all right so just think 2808 01:52:46,970 --> 01:52:44,969 of all the planets are floating around 2809 01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:46,980 these guys and he said I don't know what 2810 01:52:50,810 --> 01:52:49,050 it was I didn't come up with there be 60 2811 01:52:53,629 --> 01:52:50,820 billion people just in ayran 2812 01:52:55,970 --> 01:52:53,639 I'm Milky Way at 60 billion beings and 2813 01:52:57,379 --> 01:52:55,980 that was a low estimate right as you say 2814 01:52:59,240 --> 01:52:57,389 the more we learn you know I'm higher 2815 01:53:01,520 --> 01:52:59,250 that goes up you know there's an old 2816 01:53:04,010 --> 01:53:01,530 quote from arthur c clarke i love this 2817 01:53:06,049 --> 01:53:04,020 one two possibilities exist either we 2818 01:53:09,350 --> 01:53:06,059 are alone in the universe or we're not 2819 01:53:11,830 --> 01:53:09,360 both are equally terrifying you know 2820 01:53:13,970 --> 01:53:11,840 what terrifies me is officee client okay 2821 01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:13,980 did you have you ever and there's 2822 01:53:19,329 --> 01:53:17,130 probably not an appropriate subject his 2823 01:53:23,159 --> 01:53:19,339 background what was going on yeah 2824 01:53:25,719 --> 01:53:23,169 you know no I've no idea we'll get 2825 01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:25,729 someone let's just say that no can we 2826 01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:28,249 say he's not someone to be praised no no 2827 01:53:35,649 --> 01:53:32,449 not at all I mean his his genius that 2828 01:53:37,629 --> 01:53:35,659 came out and his writing yes is pretty 2829 01:53:39,129 --> 01:53:37,639 heavily counterbalance by his personal 2830 01:53:41,079 --> 01:53:39,139 life is that okay is that nice we'll 2831 01:53:44,979 --> 01:53:41,089 move on to some other party I'm gonna 2832 01:53:46,059 --> 01:53:44,989 give us some fun okay all right we have 2833 01:53:48,189 --> 01:53:46,069 three minutes left 2834 01:53:50,290 --> 01:53:48,199 is there any burning Martin what's your 2835 01:53:51,939 --> 01:53:50,300 favorite oh my god I was wondering if 2836 01:53:53,379 --> 01:53:51,949 anyone was gonna ask well I mean we 2837 01:53:55,529 --> 01:53:53,389 should have been asking new questions it 2838 01:53:57,969 --> 01:53:55,539 would have been more interesting no no 2839 01:53:59,469 --> 01:53:57,979 take my god you know they're all just 2840 01:54:01,029 --> 01:53:59,479 you know they're my all my babies so 2841 01:54:06,549 --> 01:54:01,039 it's hard to choose from you know people 2842 01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:06,559 always say that no I think boy well I 2843 01:54:12,219 --> 01:54:09,050 think the Ariel school incident mm-hmm 2844 01:54:15,609 --> 01:54:12,229 is a tie with Rendlesham forest 2845 01:54:17,889 --> 01:54:15,619 yeah Brendon is is pretty amazing stuff 2846 01:54:19,119 --> 01:54:17,899 and the money Zamora one does another 2847 01:54:21,459 --> 01:54:19,129 one with [\h__\h] that's right up there I 2848 01:54:22,750 --> 01:54:21,469 always say that's in the top five - I'm 2849 01:54:25,799 --> 01:54:22,760 is interesting because we were talking 2850 01:54:28,389 --> 01:54:25,809 about mr. leer that's what got him 2851 01:54:30,759 --> 01:54:28,399 converted he had a friend that was at 2852 01:54:33,099 --> 01:54:30,769 Bentwaters captain in the Air Force 2853 01:54:34,689 --> 01:54:33,109 and he says hey we were locked in our 2854 01:54:36,129 --> 01:54:34,699 buildings and he couldn't move they want 2855 01:54:37,899 --> 01:54:36,139 to complete locks up and something 2856 01:54:40,029 --> 01:54:37,909 happened we thought for you know that 2857 01:54:41,439 --> 01:54:40,039 maybe this is it we're going to war but 2858 01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:41,449 we weren't acting like it was you know 2859 01:54:46,989 --> 01:54:45,199 wartime and he doctored UFOs I'm landed 2860 01:54:49,239 --> 01:54:46,999 in the woods and the marsh there and it 2861 01:54:50,469 --> 01:54:49,249 was rich heated things going on in 1968 2862 01:54:52,479 --> 01:54:50,479 and right around Christmas a lot of 2863 01:54:54,219 --> 01:54:52,489 people were away and stuff and they went 2864 01:54:56,529 --> 01:54:54,229 out made saw it and then the next night 2865 01:54:58,359 --> 01:54:56,539 two nights later a major went out had a 2866 01:55:01,419 --> 01:54:58,369 tape recorder you can hear him saying 2867 01:55:02,919 --> 01:55:01,429 1980 but you can hear him saying wow I 2868 01:55:04,449 --> 01:55:02,929 can see this thing what is this thing 2869 01:55:07,059 --> 01:55:04,459 you know I mean it's literally a tape 2870 01:55:10,479 --> 01:55:07,069 recorder major holiday mammoth Charles 2871 01:55:12,369 --> 01:55:10,489 halt amazing amazing evidence yeah it's 2872 01:55:14,409 --> 01:55:12,379 amazing story and then you have someone 2873 01:55:16,659 --> 01:55:14,419 like Ross who talks about from a 2874 01:55:19,689 --> 01:55:16,669 completely practice our power retired 2875 01:55:21,729 --> 01:55:19,699 REM friend of all of us and our in our 2876 01:55:23,739 --> 01:55:21,739 various shows all the underground 2877 01:55:26,529 --> 01:55:23,749 facilities all the stuff and then 2878 01:55:29,439 --> 01:55:26,539 ancient history of that particular part 2879 01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:29,449 of the UK of Bremen goes back for 2880 01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:31,040 hundreds of years of 2881 01:55:36,130 --> 01:55:33,290 of strange activities in that forest yes 2882 01:55:37,810 --> 01:55:36,140 two wheelbases with anyone going correct 2883 01:55:39,190 --> 01:55:37,820 - yeah bases where the US had nuclear 2884 01:55:40,780 --> 01:55:39,200 weapons that they weren't supposed to 2885 01:55:42,220 --> 01:55:40,790 have this so it's funny how these things 2886 01:55:44,740 --> 01:55:42,230 happen around places like you know you 2887 01:55:47,290 --> 01:55:44,750 can't ask halt if they were there you 2888 01:55:50,410 --> 01:55:47,300 know you can really upsetting me and 2889 01:55:52,420 --> 01:55:50,420 they should see that but there's a there 2890 01:55:54,940 --> 01:55:52,430 was a way around the way they can word 2891 01:55:58,030 --> 01:55:54,950 that in other words there's some type of 2892 01:55:59,680 --> 01:55:58,040 wording they can say I forget were they 2893 01:56:02,110 --> 01:55:59,690 say some type of weapons were but they 2894 01:56:03,490 --> 01:56:02,120 they don't actually say nuclear weapon 2895 01:56:05,650 --> 01:56:03,500 yeah right you would know something 2896 01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:05,660 about I have no idea I have no idea what 2897 01:56:13,300 --> 01:56:09,770 I'm not either so all right well we are 2898 01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:13,310 at the end of the show okay well Martin 2899 01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,110 thanks for a very unique experience this 2900 01:56:23,170 --> 01:56:19,760 was a blast I really had a lot of fun 2901 01:56:25,420 --> 01:56:23,180 okay I don't know but anyway we'll be 2902 01:56:30,250 --> 01:56:25,430 back next week at podcast UFO we're 2903 01:56:33,550 --> 01:56:30,260 gonna have Calvin Clark Calvin Klein 2904 01:56:35,950 --> 01:56:33,560 Calvin Klein the Calvin Parker yeah in 2905 01:56:38,470 --> 01:56:35,960 Calvin Parker and the Pascagoula case oh 2906 01:56:42,130 --> 01:56:38,480 yeah those guys that had the lobster 2907 01:56:44,650 --> 01:56:42,140 hands yeah yeah cool yeah so Calvin was 2908 01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:44,660 on my show and it was a very very moving 2909 01:56:49,930 --> 01:56:46,850 show because he actually connected with 2910 01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:49,940 a family member through my show that he 2911 01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:52,010 was estranged from and they really yeah 2912 01:56:56,260 --> 01:56:54,290 she was talking everyday just happened 2913 01:56:58,540 --> 01:56:56,270 to happen this great experience so 2914 01:57:01,290 --> 01:56:58,550 anyway that's it for this fortunately on 2915 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:01,300 Mac show we sometimes break up families 2916 01:57:09,190 --> 01:57:07,610 we mean that time it was a ball cuz he 2917 01:57:10,930 --> 01:57:09,200 put up with a lot there folks 2918 01:57:13,270 --> 01:57:10,940 excellent alright everyone thanks so 2919 01:57:16,570 --> 01:57:13,280 much and remember to come back next week 2920 01:57:19,540 --> 01:57:16,580 and remember also to keep your eyes to